Icon stage 1 lift question

[Metalhead77]

So I just got new tires and wheels on my 4runner and got the itch to get a lift. That and the fact the front tires rub slightly when turning in reverse.

So the lift I chose is the icon stage 1. I'm going to go 3" in front and 2" in the rear. I got a quote today from a recommended shop nearby of $ 2500.00 out the door with parts labor and 9.25 ca tax. Is this a good price? I also have the option of going icon stage 2 for $3500.00 total parts labor and tax.

What do you guys think? Good price ? Or should I try a different shop.

 

[jam23r1]

i did not get the icon. i got the toytec for 1200 and 4wheel parts did the work for 600 out the door. so its about the same

 

[Dispense]

I have no experience in this area but have been researching the various kits out there for us.

The pricing seems a bit high to me for install/tax. Demello Offroad sells the Stage 1 for $1540 and the Stage 2 for $2735. (about $200-300 off of ICON's website pricing)

I've been trying to decide if ICON is worth the added cost when compared to systems like OLW. I can't find any direct comparisons between the two. Users of both systems, both say the ride is firm but not harsh.

I think I'd mix and match parts instead of buying the Stage packages too. You could get the ICON springs, rear w/reservoir, front w/reservoir, and UCA for about $3500 (ICON pricing). That's quite the set-up compared to Stage 2 with install/tax. (seems like a Stage 5 kit without the lower rear trailing arm kit)

 

[iDRiVaT4R]

The rear shocks in both Stage 1 and 2 are pretty basic. If you have the funds for the stage 2, I would mix and match. Get the rear Remote Resi shocks, get the front remote resi coilovers, the rear coils, then buy Total Chaos Upper Control Arms.

At Wheelers Off Road (which is where I bought all my Icon parts for my 08' Tacoma) lists the following for prices. No Sales Tax since your in Cali and free shipping on the Coilvoers.

Icon Vehicle Dynamics Coilover Shocks from Wheeler's Off-Road
Front Remote Resi Coilovers + Total Chaos Upper Control Arms Kit $1930
Rear Remote Resi Shocks $796
Rear Shock Shin Guards $95
Rear Coils $220

Grand Total before Labor and Alignment and shipping. $3041

This would give you an awesome ride. Of course I would recommend checking out Overland Warehouse as well. I'm running their suspension in my 4Runner.

Going the Overland Warehouse Route, you'll get the Coilovers, Rear shocks, and rear coils for $1775 before Tax, free shipping. And from Wheelers Offroad the Total Chaos Upper arms for $669 before shipping. Grand total of $2444 before tax and shipping.
All these items can be installed by you with just a few basic mechanical skills. If you have the space save your self the Labor costs and install yourself.

Just my 2 cents. Good Luck.

 

[KVA]

Suspension

I bought the Overland Warehouse 2.5 kit after lots of thought and research. Priced out the Icon Stage 2, etc...as well. I was pricing out installs as well and the UCA makes it a bit more expensive then just a shock/coil replacement and requires a full day at least in the shop. The radflow stuff OW uses is great and rated at 700lbs. Beefy stuff.

I figured I could do it...so save the money and buy some sliders Also, I did not replace the UCA's and was able to get the truck into perfect specs/caster with an alignment (wheel place I bought my tires from did it for free!). I did the install...I have never done a truck before...took me a while by myself (Saturday/Sunday morning - 10 hours total - felt like 7 hours for the first coilover, and 1 hour each remaining side) but could do it in half the time now.

Remember to not under estimate taking parts off and just getting ready to start. Also, if your not replacing the UCA you will need a tie-rod puller, a jack and four jack stands, besides all the necessary metric tools. I tried to do without the tie-rod puller and lost what felt like an eternity screwing around with it and regret it...buy the right tool and it makes life EASY.

Anyway, you can do it...and it will teach you a bit about your suspension.

On the rubbing, if you lift, wait until afte alignment...then get under the truck and move the plastic body parts that are rubbing using the stock screws by drilling new holes an inch+ out/away from tire...I have 285/70/17 and no rubbing...forward or reverse.

 

[MrGrimm]

^There should not have been any need for a tie-rod remover unless you are talking about the upper ball joint. Even then all you need is a BFH.

 

[tlflow]

^There should not have been any need for a tie-rod remover unless you are talking about the upper ball joint. Even then all you need is a BFH.

we used a MFH cause it just aint that big ... leave the nut on to protect the thread, unless you're really accurate with your hammer

 

[MrGrimm]

we used a MFH cause it just aint that big ... leave the nut on to protect the thread, unless you're really accurate with your hammer

If you unscrew the castle nut just a 1/4" or so and smack the **** out of the flat portion on the spindle with a BFH, the UBJ will separate from the spindle very easily. Trust me, I have the exact same setup on my Tacoma and I have taken them off a couple times. At this point I can remove the coilovers in about 20 minutes with normal hand tools.

 

[harper7]

So I just got new tires and wheels on my 4runner and got the itch to get a lift. That and the fact the front tires rub slightly when turning in reverse.

So the lift I chose is the icon stage 1. I'm going to go 3" in front and 2" in the rear. I got a quote today from a recommended shop nearby of $ 2500.00 out the door with parts labor and 9.25 ca tax. Is this a good price? I also have the option of going icon stage 2 for $3500.00 total parts labor and tax.

What do you guys think? Good price ? Or should I try a different shop.

Try a different shop.....
That's pretty high ,especially since you have a SR5. They are the easiest by far of the 3 models. Simple straight forward remove and replace and any good shop it should be a 2 hour job at the most.I waited til a hundred miles or so for it to settle before alignment.

As stated ,Icons can be bought as separates rather then "stage" kits. The piggy back rear shocks are worth every penny IMO. No need for the remote res's in the front really.

Demello Offroad has the best prices I've found on Icons when you call in the order....ask for Jason for the discount off msrp. It's not free shipping though.
Common sense test:artist2:
You might get....
The correct answer is A,B or C?
A. 1 % off msrp
B. 20% off msrp
C. 75% off msrp

c,mon....If you need to ask?

 

[reklov]

I paid 290 for mine, but they meant to charge me 380 for UCAs and OW kit.

That was at wheel warehouse in anaheim, for those in So Cal.

 

[KVA]

If you unscrew the castle nut just a 1/4" or so and smack the **** out of the flat portion on the spindle with a BFH, the UBJ will separate from the spindle very easily. Trust me, I have the exact same setup on my Tacoma and I have taken them off a couple times. At this point I can remove the coilovers in about 20 minutes with normal hand tools.

Trust me...I tried with a MFH, BFH, and a sledge hammer and it didn't budge...I banged the crap out of it and almost...almost damaged the castle nut and the thread from too much banging and doing everything everyone has previously stated doing...I used "Search" and this topic is discussed many times.

Anyway, I got tired of wasting time and banging the bolt so I bought the tie-rod puller for $15 bucks at pep boys and in a couple turns it cracked with a loud pop and it was loose. Way easier then hammering on it. I cannot emphasize enough...and there is no way to install without removing the tie-rod or UCA. You can remove the stock shock/coil, but cannot install the new beefy coilovers without removing...I tried many different ways.

I wish the hammer worked...though I highly recommend the tie-rod puller...it is a cheap tool addition that ended up being totally worth it.