If this is true, then this 4R will be my last Toyota

[4RunnerAquasport]

You could always open a Go Fund Me account and all the Yota haters can come together and right this incredible wrong Toyota has done to you. Maybe you'll raise enough for a new Jeep, which also have tpms I believe.

Seriously though, I put all new sensors (Amazon) in my 33s bought from D. T. Direct on ebay, had them mounted at their local store, they had no issues. I think its just incompetence and bad luck.

 

[1engineer]

Its a bold strategy Cotton, let's see if it pays off.

ESPN8, The Ocho...

 

[philsey]

Any more questions? I got the answers, lol.

Yes, what's this boner you speak of?

 

[Antman]

Yes, what's this boner you speak of?

Google" Red Rocket"

 

[4OYOTER]

Your Costco should have called the Bartec support line. Any TPMS relearn issue we have ever seen was solved by a quick call to their help line. We once had a Prius that had some sort of ECU block that prevented our Bartec tool from completing the relearn. Bartec walked us through removing the block through their tool and relearn was succcessful.

 

[wfo9]

This is not something to get upset about.. There is some stupid shit Toyota does that does piss me off.

Wait until you have some simple problem out in the middle of nowhere... Like a cat efficiency or EVAP code and your truck won't go into 4wd... That's the kind of crap that pisses me off. Its designed to force you into a dealer when a minor issue comes up and make the truck seem unreliable. Not a big deal when it is new... but what happens down the road when it is just a wheeling rig..... You just have to throw it away since Toyota has all their ECU stuff locked down. Hopefully there will be aftermarket work arounds at some point, but they have tied everything into one big knot and it sucks IMHO. Domestic brands typically don't do this crap.

 

[NorthwoodsRunner]

[MENTION=102590]sweaty[/MENTION]

Costco is responsible for this particular issue but they made it right by reimbursing you the cost. You can't blame Costco other than the initial error.

Toyota dealer fixed the issue that they did not create, has to pay its mechanic for the labor and covers the coffee you sipped.

Next time you take your car or truck in ask the tire installer how they are going to replace the tires without damaging TPMS sensors. It is a good reminder for the installer. I know you lost your time but this particular issue is not Toyota's fault. I actually prefer direct TPMS sensors over indirect because direct TPMS equipped cars/trucks are less likely to give you false positives.

I would move on as a lesson learned.

 

[sweaty]

65 ft lbs. They are set so they cannot over torque the lug nuts. All lugs are hand-torqued which is more than you get at most places.

Any more questions? I got the answers, lol.

Interesting. While I was at the costco shop, I saw the guy using a very long hand wrench to tighten the nuts. I always assumed the the automatic wrench is superior than the manual one.

Also, after they put on the new tires, they asked me to return to the shop within 25 miles so they could check if the lug nuts were loose. That sounded weird but I did what they asked anyway. If the nuts were loose, 25 miles were enough to cause a lot of damage, or worse, such as me driving on three wheels.

Is this standard in costco shops or is this just this one shop that I visited?

 

[SATSTRAIL]

Interesting. While I was at the costco shop, I saw the guy using a very long hand wrench to tighten the nuts. I always assumed the the automatic wrench is superior than the manual one.

Also, after they put on the new tires, they asked me to return to the shop within 25 miles so they could check if the lug nuts were loose. That sounded weird but I did what they asked anyway. If the nuts were loose, 25 miles were enough to cause a lot of damage, or worse, such as me driving on three wheels.

Is this standard in costco shops or is this just this one shop that I visited?

That is standard procedure at all mainstream tire shops. It's not checking to see if they left lug nuts loose but rather retorquing them after the wheels have had some flex/driving on them. It's mainly a safety thing to cover their own butts.

 

[Saker]

Doesn't the owners manual state something in regards to re-checking lug nuts as well?

 

[sweaty]

Thanks everyone who commented.

For those who didn't read everything or doesn't know how to read, I came here to verify whether Toyota engineered some proprietary TPMS design which would prohibit a third party from "relearning" replacement TPMS. The answer is no, they didn't. The Costco shop that I visited probably screwed up the installation. And they made it sound like Toyota did such a thing and tried to lay the blame on Toyota. End of discussion. Move on.

I would be upset if Toyota actually had such a design that would prevent a third party from relearning the new TPMS. I have seen other manufacturers do this, Apple being the worst. When the first Ipod came out, my boss bought me one. It was nice until I discovered that in order to charge it, you need to keep the computer on. Apples went out of its way to implement a design that reads whether the computer is turn on. If it is not, the Ipod will not charge. And guess what? The device doesn't come with a charger. You have to buy a wall charger separately. I have very little tolerance for BS like this. Since then I have never touched another Apple device and life is good. Your mileage may vary. Do what you want with your money and time.

 

[sweaty]

That is standard procedure at all mainstream tire shops. It's not checking to see if they left lug nuts loose but rather retorquing them after the wheels have had some flex/driving on them. It's mainly a safety thing to cover their own butts.

I have no idea this is standard procedure. Last time I replaced tires would be over 10 years ago on a different car and I have no recollection of being told to do this. I learned something today:yo:

 

[nb rob]

I have no idea this is standard procedure. Last time I replaced tires would be over 10 years ago on a different car and I have no recollection of being told to do this. I learned something today:yo:

Have you ever had your tires rotated?

 

[sweaty]

Have you ever had your tires rotated?

Yes, multiple times at the dealership. They never asked me to come back. Should they?

 

[TrdinOhio]

Holy shit OP. Is this your first auto-ma-car?
Things have changed since the Horse and buggy brother.
I read this thread and it makes me want to gouge out my eyes. I hope you got your questions answered and have a satisfactory resolution but maybe don't start a thread on a TOYOTA forum looking to bash Toyota...never gonna go well.

Anyways enjoy your 4Runner. It is a badass truck in every way that matters.
Don't sweat the small stuff and take pride in the fact that your driving a battle tested tried and true great vehicle.

 

[sweaty]

I thought it was you that I ran over when I was left with three wheels the other day. You are one tough kid to run over, I'll give you that

Holy shit OP. Is this your first auto-ma-car?
Things have changed since the Horse and buggy brother.
I read this thread and it makes me want to gouge out my eyes. I hope you got your questions answered and have a satisfactory resolution but maybe don't start a thread on a TOYOTA forum looking to bash Toyota...never gonna go well.

Anyways enjoy your 4Runner. It is a badass truck in every way that matters.
Don't sweat the small stuff and take pride in the fact that your driving a battle tested tried and true great vehicle.

 

[ECUDrummer]

Holy shit OP.

Should have just stopped here.

 

[snowrunner77]

I am sorry. I wasn't able to read and comprehend a thing you just said. Lol.

What can't you comprehend? Paragraph makes perfect sense.

 

[flyrv9]

Why would you write something for those who don't know how to read?

 

[Jhalko]

It is threads like this that make me miss Stifler.

:faint2: