Injector leak - options?

Arkay

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Hey, guys,

New to forum, wonder if any have had similar problem. Have an 8-yr old SR5, few major repairs to date (clutch, ~15K ago), body in good condition. Original owner. Mostly commute, but some beach driving for surf fishing (better than working any day!).

I smelled a strong gas odor recently, and went to my (usually straight-shooting) independent mechanic, who said 2 injectors were leaking. As the injectors apparently use O-rings rather than a threaded mechanical connection, and the engine has 219K on it, he presented three options:
(1) trade in, for little value, on some new vehicle;
(2) replace all 6 injectors for ~$1.8K, but noted that because of the engine's age they might start leaking, and the engine may develop other problems (and he really didn't recommend this option, characterizing it as a waste of money); or
(3) drop in another engine (he found one with relatively low mileage from a rear-ended vehicle, relatively low mileage) for a little under $5K (and a 1-yr warranty from the seller!), saying I'd probably be able to sell the vehicle for something like the cost of repair in 2-3 years.

I don't really feel like driving a bomb to work, especially dropping the kids off at school mornings. I also really don't want to sell the truck, now or in 3 years - the newer T4R's are not as good in mileage (when not leaking gas =:-) ); the FJ is smaller and may end up with a similar problem at 200K; and I don't really want to go with a Ford, as my Japanese-bashing in-laws keep pushing. (not that the last point is really relevant)

We usually drive our vehicles into the ground rather than sell them. Is this T4R now officially in the ground? I can't really see spending $5K for a used engine, but have never before had a vehicle where the mechanicals gave out before the body was a rustbucket.

I'd appreciate a reality check on this one, folks.
 
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Reality check, LOL, >200K equals bad things can happen at any time. I'm sure you know that but I guess it just comes down to how much you like the truck and what shape everything else is in.

1.8K sounds a little high to me, I just had all six injectors changed in my wife's Sienna for 1300 from the dealer and that engine bay is a mechanics nightmare. The T4R would be much easier and should be cheaper, I'd be temped to try it myself. The injectors do use "O" rings and I can't see why new ones would leak again anytime soon. A used motor for 5K would not be an option for me, for that kind of jingle I'd look into a re-man or add a little more to it and get a different truck with lower miles.

Can I have your springs???...just kidding, good luck..

Doug
 
I think your mechanic either doesn't want the job or really needs some extra cash. A full set of new o-rings (grommets in Toyota terms) are $2.80 at NAPA or $8.00 from the dealer. Heck, since the labor is the same, a full set of rebuilt and balanced injectors are about $150 from SunCarb. I've been into mine twice during my supercharger install and it takes less than 2 hours-- with coffee.

There would be no reason why new o-rings alone would not fix the problem. The seats in the fuel rail and intake ports do not wear.

You can send your present injectors off for cleaning and return with new o-rings for <$100. (search ebay 'ASNU')
 
Deep_palancar said:
I think your mechanic either doesn't want the job or really needs some extra cash. A full set of new o-rings (grommets in Toyota terms) are $2.80 at NAPA or $8.00 from the dealer. Heck, since the labor is the same, a full set of rebuilt and balanced injectors are about $150 from SunCarb. I've been into mine twice during my supercharger install and it takes less than 2 hours-- with coffee.

There would be no reason why new o-rings alone would not fix the problem. The seats in the fuel rail and intake ports do not wear.

You can send your present injectors off for cleaning and return with new o-rings for <$100. (search ebay 'ASNU')

One question, how does the need for 6 new injectors at 200+ thousand miles not quantify to "driven into the ground"? That is way more miles than you would get out of any American car. Deep is right, injectors are cheap and fairly easy to replace. If that's all you need then you should be able to do it for cheap and count yourself lucky becasue God himself is smiling on you for your car to only have that problem at 200+ thousand miles!
 
I would question why your mechanic is suggesting replacing the motor when it is only a fuel problem. Time to find a new mechanic.
 
Thanks for all your advice, folks. Ended up with a new mechanic, found a much simpler fuel leak near the recently replaced fuel filter, small enough to open or close based on outside temperature. Much cheaper fix, too! So I'll be out on the beach again fishing in the surf ASAP.
 
What did your old mechanic say when you told him it was just a simple problem after he told u to spend over $1000?
 

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