installed- Borla S-Type Cat-Back Exhaust Systems (p/n 140760) 2013 Trail

[Todbld]

I just installed the Borla S-Type Cat-Back Exhaust Systems (p/n 140760) on my 2013 Trail edition 4Runner with kdss. It fit great no rattling on heat shields. No drone on the highway and it’s slightly louder than the stock one at idle. The S-Type model has no exhaust tip, just a angled cut pipe, look like the stock one. Reason for replacing the stock one was it was rusting out and the new Borla exhaust is stainless steel.

The only thing I’m disappointed in, there was no donut gasket supplied. I had to reuse the old one until I could get a new one. I have had plenty of exhaust systems on my cars and truck over the years and they always come with all the gaskets. This is the first Borla bolt on that I have purchased.

 

[jasxn]

I wish you were a lot closer than santa cruz so i can come by and have a listen. Still waiting for Battleborn or Borla to send me a tracking confirmation.

Please keep us updated if you decide to do a sound clip!

 

[SpoilsofWar]

I love mine too....I am however thinking about having it modified to side exit....I feel like it should have come like that from the factory I’m tired of the soot on the rear interior panels....bad design Toyota!


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[zzdocxx]

Just curious as to what advantages this particular exhaust system holds over the stock, other than that it is stainless.

Thanks !

:yo:

 

[SpoilsofWar]

Just curious as to what advantages this particular exhaust system holds over the stock, other than that it is stainless.



Thanks !



:yo:

12lbs lighter that stock, 2.5” versus 2.25” stock, flows better than stock and has louder more aggressive sound than stock


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[SnowYeti]

Got mine this week and had it installed today.

Why I bought it:
Stainless, check
Better flow, check I guess
Clearance, fail
Sound, not loving it
Less smell, fail


Clearance. In all the photos it provides better clearance and it tucked up under. Mine is not. Sticks out and down same as stock. Horrible cut as well, rough and and off to the left. Even looks like it has taken a hit. Hack job looking.

Sound. It is deeper and throatier. Most noticeable at lower rpm, higher it is not a huge improvement. The opposite of what I expected

The bummer is for some reason my stock exhaust nuts where tack welded. So when they removed the stock exhaust they cut it out, so now I can’t put it back on.

Expected more from a premium brand

 

[jasxn]

Got mine this week and had it installed today.

Why I bought it:
Stainless, check
Better flow, check I guess
Clearance, fail
Sound, not loving it
Less smell, fail


Clearance. In all the photos it provides better clearance and it tucked up under. Mine is not. Sticks out and down same as stock. Horrible cut as well, rough and and off to the left. Even looks like it has taken a hit. Hack job looking.

Sound. It is deeper and throatier. Most noticeable at lower rpm, higher it is not a huge improvement. The opposite of what I expected

The bummer is for some reason my stock exhaust nuts where tack welded. So when they removed the stock exhaust they cut it out, so now I can’t put it back on.

Expected more from a premium brand

I installed mine on tuesday. I still need to do a sound clip. I like it but I dont like the noise in the cabin. Not sure if the Y-pipe has anything to do with it. Now I'm thinking if I should've went with the touring version.

As for the tack weld. did you check the other side of it? I was trying to unbolt the pipe after the stock muffler and stripped the bolt but noticed it was tack welded. Then realized i was suppose to unscrew the nuts on the other side (nuts facing the cargo area).

So what are you planning on doing? Put your stock back on and weld up the piping they cut off?

I'm debating if a resonator will tone everything down

 

[SnowYeti]

You can see the offset rough cut and how it sticks out further and down. Not any better for clearance

 

[SnowYeti]

I installed mine on tuesday. I still need to do a sound clip. I like it but I dont like the noise in the cabin. Not sure if the Y-pipe has anything to do with it. Now I'm thinking if I should've went with the touring version.

As for the tack weld. did you check the other side of it? I was trying to unbolt the pipe after the stock muffler and stripped the bolt but noticed it was tack welded. Then realized i was suppose to unscrew the nuts on the other side (nuts facing the cargo area).

So what are you planning on doing? Put your stock back on and weld up the piping they cut off?

I'm debating if a resonator will tone everything down

Honestly I don’t know what to do. I called the muffler place and called them out on cutting up my stock system and they gave me some BS. They said they can butt weld it back together, but rust will love that. Crap!

At the very least I am contacting Battleborm to get a replacement.

I don’t think your Y pipe is the culprit on the cabin sound, I have it as well. May try and see if they will replace this exhaust with the touring version. There are not many options really that don’t add a lot more volume.

 

[jasxn]

Honestly I don’t know what to do. I called the muffler place and called them out on cutting up my stock system and they gave me some BS. They said they can butt weld it back together, but rust will love that. Crap!

At the very least I am contacting Battleborm to get a replacement.

I don’t think your Y pipe is the culprit on the cabin sound, I have it as well. May try and see if they will replace this exhaust with the touring version. There are not many options really that don’t add a lot more volume.

dang. I was planning on calling Borla to see how to tone this down.
Please update us if Battleborn does anything. I was looking at their return policy and

 

[Mutant138]

Can we get some in cabin sound clips. Looking for something that can give me some feedback at low rpm sounds like this might be an option.

 

[jasxn]

Can we get some in cabin sound clips. Looking for something that can give me some feedback at low rpm sounds like this might be an option.

PM your number. i'll throw my phone in the rear and record and i can send you the clip. i'm going to head to work in about 30min. its 5 miles away so you'll get street and freeway.

Honestly it sounds great. throaty. no rasp when i floor it.
I dont hear it when i have the radio on.
cold start you can hear it initially but goes away. Idle you cant hear it. 35mph you can slightly hear it if you have the windows down and radio on low.
Highway/freeway speeds (75pmh) is when you can hear it in the back.
I would honestly keep it but LA is freeway city.

Really debating if i should add a resonator if that'll tone it down.
Going to call Borla today if i have time to discuss with them.

if this is on your list let me know. i can definitely meet you halfway. go wheeling around the middle somewhere lol.

The drive isnt bad either. I bought this 4R in Tuscon and drove it home to El Segundo.

edit: if i was still in my teens early 20's i would rock this. I had a 2 chamber flowmaster chopped right after the muffler on my tacoma. freaking loved it. lol

 

[Ryan at Eibach]

Hey Fellas,

I have this exhaust too and don't think it's loud at all. With the windows up I can't even hear it. It's perfect, IMO.

Ryan

 

[Mutant138]

Hey Fellas,

I have this exhaust too and don't think it's loud at all. With the windows up I can't even hear it. It's perfect, IMO.

Ryan

Might not be what I'm looking for then.

I don't really care about top end noise. Or it being dead quiet in the cab (minus drone).

I want something that I can hear in the cab windows up or down at low rpm while offroading to get an idea where engine speed is. While navigating obstacles I don't want to have to look down at the tach just to know what's going on with the drivetrain (besides what my butt dyno can tell me). Also be nice just to hear a refined low growl just while putting around town.

My 3rd gens stock exhaust seemed to give me exactly that. 5th gen is too quiet for me.

 

[Ryan at Eibach]

With windows down you'd be fine.

 

[97BlackAckCL]

Honestly the Touring is great, still quiet at idle but gives a nice throaty sound when you give throttle, I can hear it in the cabin but there is zero drone. I love it

 

[halflife78]

Getting this installed as I type this, will test in a couple hours and let everyone know initial thoughts.

My assumption also is I need to give it a couple hundred miles to break in no matter how it sounds today.

 

[halflife78]

So, like I said above it was installed a couple hours ago and I actually drove to another city on the interstate since my wife and kids are out of town to break it in. Like someone said earlier in the thread it's deeper and throatier than the original exhaust. my observations:
1. Definitely more sound in the cabin when taking off.
2. No drone I detected.
3. Interstate on cruise control on a normal grade road it sounds like the factory exhaust.
4. Interstate with slight gas downshifting lightly really brings out the sound.
5. Flooring it brings out initial sound then all the normal engine noise completely overpowers it and it sounds like the normal exhaust.

The sweet spot with it seems to be light acceleration from pretty much every way I tested it. The initial 15 mile ride to a gun store I could really notice it when accelerating and going up grades. On the way home I called my Dad and it disappeared in the background on me. Didn't seem to interfere with the radio at all. Sounded really good to me with all the windows down.

I got the bright idea to do voice notes so I have some absolutely horrible clips on the interstate, and a few in my neighborhood going from stop signs to acceleration. If anyone want to listen with low expectations you can PM me an email address and I can send them lol.

Overall I am satisfied. I want to give it a week to break in and see how it sounds then.

 

[Battle Born Offroad]

dang. I was planning on calling Borla to see how to tone this down.
Please update us if Battleborn does anything. I was looking at their return policy and

Speak with Borla and let us know what they say.

Let us know how we can help!

 

[Battle Born Offroad]

So, like I said above it was installed a couple hours ago and I actually drove to another city on the interstate since my wife and kids are out of town to break it in. Like someone said earlier in the thread it's deeper and throatier than the original exhaust. my observations:
1. Definitely more sound in the cabin when taking off.
2. No drone I detected.
3. Interstate on cruise control on a normal grade road it sounds like the factory exhaust.
4. Interstate with slight gas downshifting lightly really brings out the sound.
5. Flooring it brings out initial sound then all the normal engine noise completely overpowers it and it sounds like the normal exhaust.

The sweet spot with it seems to be light acceleration from pretty much every way I tested it. The initial 15 mile ride to a gun store I could really notice it when accelerating and going up grades. On the way home I called my Dad and it disappeared in the background on me. Didn't seem to interfere with the radio at all. Sounded really good to me with all the windows down.

I got the bright idea to do voice notes so I have some absolutely horrible clips on the interstate, and a few in my neighborhood going from stop signs to acceleration. If anyone want to listen with low expectations you can PM me an email address and I can send them lol.

Overall I am satisfied. I want to give it a week to break in and see how it sounds then.

Thank you for the review! Give it a week or 500 miles to get "seasoned"
We love the sound on the 4Runner, gives it a little more grunt.