iPhone Xs

I love your passion man! I'm not going to have long back and forth because you will simply out type me in sheer volume of text.

I can only compare it hands on to the 8 Plus but in pictures it feels like a 5 year better camera system then my wife's iPhone, the differences are that stark.

I do wish I had access to an XS though.

Re costs I believe it is only $400 at Verizon with a new line.

My camera has never had any of the issues described. I don't take one offs very seriously. There are plenty of people who write about hating their iPhone and I don't take those stories seriously either since they are one-offs.
 
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I love your passion man! I'm not going to have long back and forth because you will simply out type me in sheer volume of text.

I can only compare it hands on to the 8 Plus but in pictures it feels like a 5 year better camera system then my wife's iPhone, the differences are that stark.

I do wish I had access to an XS though.

It’s not sheer volume of text...it is sheer volume of FACTS that you conveniently keep on ignoring. :D

XS camera system is VERY DIFFERENT than 8+. Bigger sensor. Smart HDR via A12. Smart HDR is very different from Auto HDR in 8+.

Brian, you keep on posting the same misunderstanding over and over again. What’s the deal dude?

I get it...you like your Pixel 3 and i like my XS. But you keep on saying Smart HDR is same as older iPhones again and again won’t make it come true! :D
 
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Re costs I believe it is only $400 at Verizon with a new line.

My camera has never had any of the issues described. I don't take one offs very seriously. There are plenty of people who write about hating their iPhone and I don't take those stories seriously either since they are one-offs.

Yeah, no one is buying Pixel. Huge discounts on it. Resale is bad.

One offs? Dude, there is a whole article about it! Confirmed by the two main editors of that site!

Maybe your Pixel is the one off? :D
 
I can only compare it hands on to the 8 Plus but in pictures it feels like a 5 year better camera system then my wife's iPhone, the differences are that stark.

XS camera system is VERY DIFFERENT than 8+. Bigger sensor. Smart HDR via A12. Smart HDR is very different from Auto HDR in 8+.

I will agree with Thai in that the camera is quite different from the 8 to the XS. I haven't compared it, but it's also supposed to be a noticeable step up from the X. I can't personally say how it stacks up against the Pixel 3, but I do have a friend with one and he raves about its photo/video prowess.
 
I will agree with Thai in that the camera is quite different from the 8 to the XS. I haven't compared it, but it's also supposed to be a noticeable step up from the X. I can't personally say how it stacks up against the Pixel 3, but I do have a friend with one and he raves about its photo/video prowess.

8+ and X (not XS) have similar camera system, except that X telephoto lens has OIS and wider aperture (f/2.4 vs. f/2.8 in 8+).

XS main lens (f/1.8) is much different from before. Bigger sensor. Same aperture. OIS, but this is no different from before. Same size sensor as Pixel 2/3 and Samsung. Then you add in the processing power of A12 Smart HDR.

XS telephoto lens (f/2.4) has OIS as well (like X). Same sensor size as X/8 telephoto lens. Then you add in the processing power of A12 Smart HDR.
 
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From the reviews I've read it sounds like the new Galaxy S10+ might be the new camera King: Samsung Galaxy S10+ camera review - DxOMark

DxO is very controversial...not sure how those scores translate to real-world conditions. But look at the first few Youtubers and decide for yourself. It’s close...but XS still king with dynamic range. Clearly, based on DxO, S10 and Mate 20 should blow XS out of the water...but that's not the case.

Surprisingly, S10 no longer uses telephoto lens for Portraits, which explains some distortions in their Portraits.

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We got our daughter a 256gb Xs Max a few days ago. It's an amazing phone. Especially compared to our ancient S7's. I have never owned an iPhone, but that phone makes me want to make the switch.
 
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After watching the camera comparison b/w S10 vs. Xs Max vs. Mate 20 Pro.......Smart HDR is class-leading. Nothing else out there right now can compare with Smart HDR in everyday shooting (pics and video).
 
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Or these new videos:

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Damn, XS is still the #1 camera system. Smart HDR on pics and video is so damn good.
 
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Samsung Galaxy phones reportedly depreciate in value faster than other brands

The report noted, "In fact, the S9 lost 10.73% more of its resale value in the first month of release than the iPhone X did in nine months! Ouch."

This year, Apple's latest iPhone XR, iPhone XS and iPhone XS Max models have similarly retained about 85 percent to 95 percent of their original sale value.

Resale value is seldom considered by reviewers discussing the upfront price of a device. Yet for a major purchase like a $999 iPhone X, the fact that it only depreciated by 30 percent over the first nine months is a substantial factor in buying it. With a resale value of $690, buyers can trade in their existing model and apply the residual value towards the purchase of a brand new iPhone XS.
 
What does Expanded Dynamic Range look like on iPhone XS video? (aka Smart HDR working on the video frame-by-frame)

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THIS is a game-changer in video capability. Oh, and the mic is pretty good too.
 
I like my iPhone XS Max, but if there was a way to easily switch my music to the new S10 I would. I have 5000+ songs on my iTunes account.
 
Why do you like S10?

I haven’t gotten my hands on it, but Samsung has always been more innovative than Apple IMO. It can be debated, but that’s how I see it. I love their phone designs, they change it up more than Apple does and one of the big factors for the S10 being attractive to me is that it has the fingerprint scanner. I hate how the XS doesn’t and unlocking it takes longer when you aren’t able to have it scan your face.
 
I haven’t gotten my hands on it, but Samsung has always been more innovative than Apple IMO. It can be debated, but that’s how I see it. I love their phone designs, they change it up more than Apple does and one of the big factors for the S10 being attractive to me is that it has the fingerprint scanner. I hate how the XS doesn’t and unlocking it takes longer when you aren’t able to have it scan your face.

FACEID is far far better than S10’s ultrasonic FPS. I encourage you to read up on it. I will post some reviews below:

More info:

TheVerge REAL S10 review: Samsung Galaxy S10 Plus review: the anti-iPhone - The Verge

“The target area for the reader is rather small (though the lockscreen will show you a diagram of where to place your finger) and I had to be very deliberate with my finger placement to get it to work.

Even then, I often had to try more than once before the S10 would unlock. I’d just rather have a Face ID system that requires less work to use, or at the very least, an old-school fingerprint scanner on the back of the phone. The S10 does have a face unlock feature, but it’s just using the camera to look for your face and compare it to a previous image — there’s no 3D mapping or anything. I was actually able to unlock the S10 with a video of my face played on another phone.

But here’s my feedback to Samsung: go copy Apple’s Face ID system. It’s far easier and more reliable to use than the S10’s nifty-looking but ultimately disappointing in-screen fingerprint scanner.”

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Android Police review:

“More substantial an issue is the dreaded in-screen fingerprint reader. I don’t want to say I hate it. I really, really don’t like it, though. After a patch to address its performance was issued to my phone mid-review, it got better, but this is still such a downgrade from even Samsung’s badly-placed capacitive scanners in terms of experience. Even after over two full weeks with the phone, my thumbs never developed good enough muscle memory to land dead on the scanner more than 50% of the time, and there’s no haptic feedback to let you know the scanner is reading or if an unlock was successful (this boggles my mind). While it’s not Nokia 9 bad - Ryan is all but prepared to call that phone unrecommendable - it’s that terrible - the in-display fingerprint scanner is in all material respects a regression from the capacitive sensors in last year’s phones. What's worse is that it's gotten even more unreliable the more I've used it, as though the phone is unlearning my fingerprint. It's maddening. This was a bad decision, and it’s the one thing that I think truly mars the Galaxy S10 in my eyes. It’s not a deal-breaker, it’s just… not good.”

In every way, a functional and practical regression from a capacitive scanner. Go back to the drawing board (read: Face ID), Samsung.

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Another Android reviewer who are disappointed:

Samsung Galaxy S10 Plus review: Peak Samsung - Android Authority

“In my testing, the fingerprint reader on the Samsung Galaxy S10 was extremely inconsistent. Samsung issued a software update a couple of days after we received the device which was meant to help with accuracy, but I didn’t see much improvement after re-registering my thumbs. The optical reader on the OnePlus 6T has been much faster and more reliable so far....”

And this site rarely say anything bad about Android!! Lol

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TheVerge did another review on smaller S10...same conclusion:

“Speaking of the fingerprint scanner, it is the same as the one on the S10 Plus, which means that it’s not very good. It is slower and less accurate than the capacitive fingerprint scanners on many other phones, including last year’s Galaxy S9, and it’s nowhere near as convenient as the facial identification system on Apple’s iPhone XS and XR. Removing the preinstalled screen protector did improve my hit rate, but I’m still not a fan of this fingerprint scanner.”

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CNET:

“The ultrasonic fingerprint reader in the other Galaxy S10 phones is supposed to be a huge advantage. It's meant to be faster, more secure and work through water and grease. But the Galaxy S10 Plus' in-screen fingerprint scanner hasn't lived up to the promise. Fingerprint recognition is hit or miss, and it takes a beat to unlock the phone. There are definitely limitations for wet and greasy fingers, and that's after two software updates.”

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PCMag:

"But that's the thing—you have to hit the screen at the exact right spot. Hitting it off-center results in rejected touches. There's no visual guideline to do so when the screen is off, and no physical guide (like the ridge of a physical sensor) at all. The sensor is less accurate with a wet finger, and not usable at all with a dirty or goopy finger.

The fingerprint sensing area is a small spot near the bottom of the phone. There's no physical guide to it, and you do have to press that spot precisely. An off-center touch won't work, and too quick a tap will result in a message saying, "Keep your finger on the sensor a little longer." A definite press of the pad of your finger is the best bet."

My results with dry fingers depended on the style of touch and which finger I used. With a definite press of my right thumb, I got 100 percent accuracy. With my left thumb, I only got 80 percent, perhaps because of the different angle I was pressing at. With quick, thoughtless touches or swipes of my thumb, recognition went down to 50 to 60 percent, leading me to turn facial recognition on.
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Consumer Reports:

“For me and many others, the fingerprint scanner on the back of Samsung’s older Galaxy phones was a routine source of irritation. While reaching for it with my finger, I invariably smudged the rear camera lenses.

The S10 and S10+ eliminate that problem by embedding the scanner in the front display. And that’s great when it works. To unlock the phone, you simply place your finger on the screen. But the new technology can be buggy. More often than not, I fell back on the option of drawing the phone’s unlock pattern or using the less than perfectly secure 2D facial recognition to unlock my phone.“



Enough said. Notice how many times these reviewers (even ANDROID reviewers) refer to FaceID as basically the GOLD standard.
 
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[MENTION=2]Thai[/MENTION] My iPhone X fell to a violent death off my balcony and Asurion (AT&T's insurance provider) is replacing it with an iPhone Xs Max for the $150 deductible. Besides the sheer size of this thing, will there be other noticeable differences than my current X in regards to the camera/everyday use?
 
[MENTION=2]Thai[/MENTION] My iPhone X fell to a violent death off my balcony and Asurion (AT&T's insurance provider) is replacing it with an iPhone Xs Max for the $150 deductible. Besides the sheer size of this thing, will there be other noticeable differences than my current X in regards to the camera/everyday use?

The camera is a HUGE improvement in every which way. Better pics and better video. Stick with 4k 30. Turn ON auto FPS for low light (in Settings —> Camera —> Record Video). 4k60 loses the smart HDR for video.

FaceID is a touch faster and now your face can be off angle is still unlock easily.

If you play games, you will see better endurance before frame drop. And with some games, you will get 60 FPS.

And with 4GB RAM and A12 chip, your XS should last 5 years at least.
 
Here are some Apple-Samsung statistics:

Premium Smartphone Market Share (600-800 dollars):
Apple: 61%
Samsung; 21%

Premium Smartphone Market Share ((800+ dollars):
Apple: 79%

Tablet Market Share:
Apple: 34.9%
Samsung: 15.1%

Smartwatch Market Share:
Apple: 50.7%
Samsung: 13.2%

Voice Assistant Usage Share:
Apple Siri: 45.6%
Samsung Bixby: 6.2%

Music Market Share:
Apple iTunes: No. 1 Music download service
Apple Music: No. 2 Streaming service (No.1 in USA, Japan and Canada)
Samsung Milk Music: Failed - shuttered in 2016

Mobile Payments:
Apple Pay: 80% market share
Samsung Pay: single digit percentage
 
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