Is $130 per Hercules tire for 2010 Camry, plus extras, a fair price?

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garlic4runner

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I am in the market for 4 new tires for a 2010 Camry. I trust my mechanic and he recommend a shop. The shop quoted me 4 Hercules tires rated at 40k miles for $130 each including balancing and free rotations every 6 months or 6k miles. When I asked him if he has anything better he said he has more expensive tires but he wouldn't consider them any better, i liked that answer. Anyway, i consider tires a good investment and I don't want to skimp on them. What do you think of his deal? Thanks :hail:
 
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What size and type of tire are you looking at? Camry's can come with V-rated performance tires. They do so for a desired handling characteristic that those types of tires can provide.

Lots of people switch to a good all-season H or T rated tire, and enjoy a smoother ride, with some loss in handling and performance compared to the V-rated tires.

So whether that's a good price or not, depends on the size, and the speed rating of the tire you're considering.
 
02SE said:
What size and type of tire are you looking at? Camry's can come with V-rated performance tires. They do so for a desired handling characteristic that those types of tires can provide.

Lots of people switch to a good all-season H or T rated tire, and enjoy a smoother ride, with some loss in handling and performance compared to the V-rated tires.

So whether that's a good price or not, depends on the size, and the speed rating of the tire you're considering.
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the tire salesman said the Hercules tires he wants to sell me are size 16, H and rated at 98 miles per hour. He said they are traction tires.


p.s. the tires are for my parents who do not drive much and do not look for performance. I want safety and quality. I was ready to spend $100 per, is $130 a good deal?

p.p.s he also informed me the Hercules tires are Cooper tires
 
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Well, the price doesn't sound that great for an off-brand tire to me. However, NYC likely has higher prices than most places in the USA.

I also question your tire guys knowledge. An H-rated tire means it has a speed rating up to 130 mph.

I went through a similar deal for my parents car, about a year ago. They are elderly, and don't drive aggressively at all. Their 4-cylinder sedan came with V-rated Michelins, because the manufacturer apparently liked some of the ride and handling characteristics those particular tires imparted on the vehicle.

They rode and drove nice on warm days, but being a summer performance tire were nearly useless for the half year of cold temps and winter driving conditions my parents have to deal with.

I swapped them out for some Michelin Defender tires which are T-rated, (up to 118 mph) but they also have the same nylon cap ply that Michelin's high performance V-rated tires do. Additionally, they do much better in cold and snow conditions, than the previous V-rated summer performance tires.

The Michelin Defender's were about $130.00 per tire, as purchased at a local Car & Truck Tires, Custom Wheels, Car Rims & Truck Rims - Discount Tire. They are on the expensive end of Passenger all-season tires, but I think they are worth the extra expense.

Bottom line I would look around for a better tire and price, than what you have been quoted.

http://www.tirerack.com/index.jsp is a good resource for learning about tires, and researching what's available. If there are no other local tire places that can offer a first-brand tire at a decent price, then I'd consider buying from Tire Rack, too.
 
02SE said:
Well, the price doesn't sound that great for an off-brand tire to me. However, NYC likely has higher prices than most places in the USA.

I also question your tire guys knowledge. An H-rated tire means it has a speed rating up to 130 mph.

I went through a similar deal for my parents car, about a year ago. They are elderly, and don't drive aggressively at all. Their 4-cylinder sedan came with V-rated Michelins, because the manufacturer apparently liked some of the ride and handling characteristics those particular tires imparted on the vehicle.

They rode and drove nice on warm days, but being a summer performance tire were nearly useless for the half year of cold temps and winter driving conditions my parents have to deal with.

I swapped them out for some Michelin Defender tires which are T-rated, (up to 118 mph) but they also have the same nylon cap ply that Michelin's high performance V-rated tires do. Additionally, they do much better in cold and snow conditions, than the previous V-rated summer performance tires.

The Michelin Defender's were about $130.00 per tire, as purchased at a local Car & Truck Tires, Custom Wheels, Car Rims & Truck Rims - Discount Tire. They are on the expensive end of Passenger all-season tires, but I think they are worth the extra expense.

Bottom line I would look around for a better tire and price, than what you have been quoted.

http://www.tirerack.com/index.jsp is a good resource for learning about tires, and researching what's available. If there are no other local tire places that can offer a first-brand tire at a decent price, then I'd consider buying from Tire Rack, too.
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what do you think of these?

http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires...&autoYear=2010&autoModel=Camry&autoModClar=LE

question, you said H rated tires are up to 130mph, from the info given by Michelin tires linked above they appear to be rated at 94H. So isn't that 94mph?
 
garlic4runner said:
what do you think of these?

http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires...&autoYear=2010&autoModel=Camry&autoModClar=LE

question, you said H rated tires are up to 130mph, from the info given by Michelin tires linked above they appear to be rated at 94H. So isn't that 94mph?
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That's a good tire. Whether it's the best tire for your parents needs, I don't know. Read the surveys, reviews and tests for that tire, and make an informed decision.

FWIW, this is the tire I put on my parents car: http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires.jsp?tireMake=Michelin&tireModel=Defender&partnum=16TR6DEF

Same size you're looking at, and the same car for that matter.

Keep in mind that if you buy from Tire Rack, after the tires are shipped to you, you'll still have to take the tires somewhere to have them mounted and balanced. Which will cost extra.

The tire you are looking at is listed as 94H. The '94' is the Load Index. Which in this case means the tire can support 1477 lbs at it's maximum inflation pressure of 44 PSI.

The 'H' is the speed rating, which as previously mentioned, is 130 mph.

This should help explain: http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tiretech/techpage.jsp?techid=35
 
hi again, O2SE

So currently the Camry has Michelin Energy MXV4S8 (assuming i have the correct info)

P215/60R 16

how do those compare to the Michelen Defender in your opinion. Also, i find that i feel most bumps and speed bumps, will the Defender tires be better for this?
 
As I said, the car and tire your parents have, is the same car my parents have, and the tires it had.

Comparing the MXV4S8 to the Defender: The MXV4S8 was a good tire for wet and dry roads, and had a feeling of a firm ride and sharp handling, but was lacking in longevity and snow traction.

The Defender rides a bit smoother, is good in dry and wet weather, but they are wearing better than the MXV4S8's, and they also have better snow traction.

Despite the fact that they are better in snow than the MXV4S8's, they are not a winter tire, and shouldn't be relied on to get them through regular heavy snowfall. If snow driving is a common need, I'd suggest a separate set of wheels and actual snow tires, to be swapped with the changing seasons.
 
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