Even Steven said:The Patriot (and it's cousin--the Compass) has its advantages. Yes, it's much smaller than a 4Runner, but it also gets much better fuel economy. I don't really see the Patriot and the 4Runner as competitors because they are in a different class.
The 4Runner competes with the Jeep Commander and the Grand Cherokee. The Patriot competes with the "cute-utes", like the Rav4. When you look at it like that, it doesn't surprise me that you couldn't talk your friend into a used 4Runner instead.
josh220 said:If he wants that "cute" look as it was called above, at least try to talk him into a Toyota mini SUV like the RAV4 like suggested. At least he will have the reliability of a Toyota, and wont be stuck on the side of the road in a few months.
If they are going for a jeep, they might as well just get an Escape. Better yet, get the puke green hybrid one. :bigok: :bigok: :bigok:
RonMAIDEN said:Go sit in a new Liberty and see what you guys think. The front seats are very narrow and the tranny tunnel is so wide it forces your legs into a small area for the pedals and no dead pedal at all since there's no room for it. I've read they do well off road but they aren't made for wider or tall americans and do seem to fit women the best.
For that size of sport ute there's better options if you aren't truly going off road.