Just heard great news from Donahoe.....

[sha4Runnerdow]

Just talked with Ryan @ Donahoe. He stated that they are only 5 weeks away from having a NEW rear coil/custom shock setup for the 4Runner:awais: . Also, he said they will have their new upper control arm ready for purchase as well:awais: . He stated that the price for the rear coil was going to be around $250-300 and the shocks were going to be $100 a piece. Also, the upper control arm was going to be $995. So, for around $2500, a complete Donahoe lift will be available:awais: (which includes coilovers $995). I know its alot of money, but I can only imagine how well our Runners will perform with this system. I am buying the whole setup. I apologize if this info has already been provided, but I got excited and posted anyway. :biggrin2:

 

[sha4Runnerdow]

Just talked with Ryan @ Donahoe. He stated that they are only 5 weeks away from having a NEW rear coil/custom shock setup for the 4Runner:awais: . Also, he said they will have their new upper control arm ready for purchase as well:awais: . He stated that the price for the rear coil was going to be around $250-300 and the shocks were going to be $100 a piece. Also, the upper control arm was going to be $995. So, for around $2500, a complete Donahoe lift will be available:awais: (which includes coilovers $995). I know its alot of money, but I can only imagine how well our Runners will perform with this system. I am buying the whole setup. I apologize if this info has already been provided, but I got excited and posted anyway. :biggrin2:

LOL, not one response!! This information must have already been posted somewhere else. Sorry everyone, but I do hope that information was helpful to a select few

 

[Bluto]

This is good news. I think a few owners have been waiting for Donahoe to come out with a rear setup. Is the FJ on coils in the rear as well?

 

[AlexJet]

...Is the FJ on coils in the rear as well?

Yep.

 

[Bill42]

Thank you for posting this information. I have been waiting...

Just a little longer now

 

[SurfingDrunk]

This is good news. I think a few owners have been waiting for Donahoe to come out with a rear setup. Is the FJ on coils in the rear as well?

the FJ uses a very modified rear suspension setup as compaired to the 4runners.
if you get a chance, stop by a dealership and pick up an FJ brochure- it has alot of great info on the rig- i wish all vehicles had brochures like that!
http://www.toyota.com/fjcruiser/specs.html has good info.

 

[Expat]

the FJ uses a very modified rear suspension setup as compaired to the 4runners.
if you get a chance, stop by a dealership and pick up an FJ brochure- it has alot of great info on the rig- i wish all vehicles had brochures like that!
http://www.toyota.com/fjcruiser/specs.html has good info.

What has been very modified?

 

[AlexJet]

Rear suspension is the same to SR5 4Runner, same axle, coils, shocks, sway-bar,... The difference between 4Runner and FJ frame is that FJ use SWB Prado frame and 4Runner has LWB Prado frame. SWB is 10cm (~4") shorter then LWB.

 

[SurfingDrunk]

What has been very modified?

the frame comes from a 120 series Land Cruiser Prado, but shortened wheelbase and modified for 32" tires.
length- 167"
width- 50"
wheelbase- 105.9"

rear suspension is not the same.
-FJ uses a latteral rod
-FJ uses smaller, 17mm, stabilizer bar in rear.
-9.06" total rear travel
-21.46" overall rear articulation
-(VS 4runner's 19.25" rear articulation)

front suspension is different too (i THINK)
high mounted upper a-arms.
7.88" travel in front
19.25" articulation
29mm stabilizer bar
front spring rate- 108/111 N/mm

 

[Expat]

the frame comes from a 120 series Land Cruiser Prado, but shortened wheelbase and modified for 32" tires.
length- 167"
width- 50"
wheelbase- 105.9"

rear suspension is not the same.
-FJ uses a latteral rod
-FJ uses smaller, 17mm, stabilizer bar in rear.
-9.06" total rear travel
-21.46" overall rear articulation
-(VS 4runner's 19.25" rear articulation)

front suspension is different too (i THINK)
high mounted upper a-arms.
7.88" travel in front
19.25" articulation
29mm stabilizer bar
front spring rate- 108/111 N/mm

Honestly this is not very modified:

Firstly the chassis is not the suspension. The fact that it is shorter does not qualify for a very modified suspension.

The 4Runners also have a lateral control rod assembly.

The issue of travel is marginal really. A two inch difference cannot be considered very modified, nor a slightly softer swaybar.

Now, if they had provided a disconnect system for the swaybar, remote res. shocks and coils that provided 6" more travel, a-arms that permitted greater travel and the possibility of fitting 34" tires or more, then we'd be talking.

Having wheeled with a few FJ's, the 4Runner is not underserviced in the suspension system. A simple OME setup will bring you very close to the FJ setup.

Now if you look at trucks like Goodtimes with the Total Chaos setup then your talking some significant modification. There's also a bunch of FJ's now being modified to accomodate tires uo to 35" and even SAS setups - that's VERY modified.

 

[SurfingDrunk]

Honestly this is not very modified:

Firstly the chassis is not the suspension. The fact that it is shorter does not qualify for a very modified suspension.

The 4Runners also have a lateral control rod assembly.

The issue of travel is marginal really. A two inch difference cannot be considered very modified, nor a slightly softer swaybar.

Now, if they had provided a disconnect system for the swaybar, remote res. shocks and coils that provided 6" more travel, a-arms that permitted greater travel and the possibility of fitting 34" tires or more, then we'd be talking.

Having wheeled with a few FJ's, the 4Runner is not underserviced in the suspension system. A simple OME setup will bring you very close to the FJ setup.

Now if you look at trucks like Goodtimes with the Total Chaos setup then your talking some significant modification. There's also a bunch of FJ's now being modified to accomodate tires uo to 35" and even SAS setups - that's VERY modified.

true, and i stand corrected about the "very modified" statement.
i knew thay shared many components, but the FJ was designed more for the offroad.
stock vs stock- while the 4runner is extremely capable, the FJ is even more so.

hell, my 97 4runner has impressed the everliving poo out of me while ive been in AZ these past few weeks!
speaking of which, time to grab the dog and head out to the desert to explore.
be well.

 

[AlexJet]

...
i knew thay shared many components, but the FJ was designed more for the offroad.
stock vs stock- while the 4runner is extremely capable, the FJ is even more so.
...

The good point is that most aftermarket suspension parts from FJ will fit 4Runner. This means that we can benefit from FJ.

 

[Expat]

The good point is that most aftermarket suspension parts from FJ will fit 4Runner. This means that we can benefit from FJ.

Alex - just remember that the FJ weight is less, so when you want to use parts planned for the FJ, you will need to take into consideration this issue, eg coils need to be stiffer for the 4R in comparison to the FJ. I'm not sure about things like trailing arm lengths/thicknesses etc but again you might just need to double check if you borrow from the FJ aftermarket, in relation to suspension.

....my 97 4runner has impressed the everliving poo out of me

The early runners were/are awesome offroad. I've had all Gen.s at one time or another and I did an aweful lot in the early ones. (Plus you tend to be willing to bash them around a bit more than the 4th gen.s which cost so much....LOL

 

[AlexJet]

Alex - just remember that the FJ weight is less, so when you want to use parts planned for the FJ, you will need to take into consideration this issue, eg coils need to be stiffer for the 4R in comparison to the FJ. I'm not sure about things like trailing arm lengths/thicknesses etc but again you might just need to double check if you borrow from the FJ aftermarket, in relation to suspension.

I want to get 6" lift from FJ and put it to my 4Runner when it becomes available, if ever will...

 

[Good Times]

I want to get 6" lift from FJ and put it to my 4Runner when it becomes available, if ever will...

They already do. Check out fabtech for their 6" kit for the tacoma.

For the rear do this:
3" coil + 3" spacer
longer shocks
longer brake lines (2)
lengthen lower control arm
lengthen upper control arm
drop panhard bar a smidge
lengthen links for the swaybar

Lots of work and also a can't go back to stock route too.

 

[AlexJet]

I've heard that Fabtech is making bolt-in conversion. So, it's reversible. Second thing that Tacoma has leafs, 4Runner coils on the rear.

 

[Good Times]

I've heard that Fabtech is making bolt-in conversion. So, it's reversible. Second thing that Tacoma has leafs, 4Runner coils on the rear.

and thus the 3" coil + 3" spacer bleh bleh bleh that I wrote earlier for the rear. Either way you'll have to cut the subframe of the front diff assembly to get the 6" lift cuz you'll need to lower the front dif anyway.

 

[AlexJet]

Hmmm, last time I was checking their website, they had set-up for Tacoma with leafs. May be you're right and they made some conversion.

3 weeks ago I talked to the Fabtech on the show, and I was told that Fabtech is working on FJ setup now which will be bolt-in replacement.

 

[Good Times]

Hmmm, last time I was checking their website, they had set-up for Tacoma with leafs. May be you're right and they made some conversion.

3 weeks ago I talked to the Fabtech on the show, and I was told that Fabtech is working on FJ setup now which will be bolt-in replacement.

I'm not saying they'll make one specifically for the 4r or even the fj. I'm just stating that you can get the 6" front kit and just do your own rear.

But you'll need all of that stuff I wrote. Too lazy to copy/paste.

Get it?

 

[AlexJet]

I see.

I want direct bolt-on version for both axles... I'm lazy to fabricate them myself too I can do it, but do not want. Fabtech should come up with the system soon for FJ and then I'd like to take a look at it.