Last couple days 4R ran rough/missed at start up, then smoothed out after 15 seconds.

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Could be a lot of things. Could be a bad O2 sensor, head gasket, etc. Best thing to do right now is go to Auto Zone or something and see what the CEL error is.
 
Just stopped at Advance, it came up as misfire cylinder #4. Would it be the coil? My guess is its not the plug.
 
coils are common to go out in all the V6's.

Swap the coil with another cylinder and see if the misfire moves with it.
 
coils are common to go out in all the V6's.

Swap the coil with another cylinder and see if the misfire moves with it.

Great idea!

Couple questions. Which one is cylinder 4? Do I need to clear the codes first? How do you clear the codes?

Thanks!
 
I believe it goes:

Passenger side Driver side

5 6

3 4

1 2

1 and 2 are at the front of the car. To reset the CEL just unplug your battery for 5 or 10 minutes.
 
Also, with that many miles - how long has it been since your last plug change? Might just check the gap real fast on that plug while you're taking the coils off.
 
Plugs are at about 70k so due. Last ones went 110k!

I'm traveling this week so I'll have to wait til Friday to try anything. I'll swap the coils first and then report back.

Thanks for all the info!
 
I'll put money on either the O2 sensor or you accidentally left the engine running while filling the truck up or the the gas cap wasn't sealed correctly.
 
I added a couple bottles of fuel injector cleaner to the tank and drove about 400 miles. The last two mornings start up has been fine.

I also moved the coils around so we'll see what happens!
 
so what happened?

I am curious to find out what happened when you moved the coils around. I have an 04 SR5 and I just had a coil go bad. Took it to mechanic because I was in a hurry to get it fixed and they charged me $300 to change one coil. Drove it away from mechanic and same problem occurred. Took it back to the mechanic and the found the gap in spark plug was .80 (pretty far from .44 required) they re-gapped it to specs and it is running fine. I am thinking about replacing the coils when I change out spark plugs.
 
I am curious to find out what happened when you moved the coils around. I have an 04 SR5 and I just had a coil go bad. Took it to mechanic because I was in a hurry to get it fixed and they charged me $300 to change one coil. Drove it away from mechanic and same problem occurred. Took it back to the mechanic and the found the gap in spark plug was .80 (pretty far from .44 required) they re-gapped it to specs and it is running fine. I am thinking about replacing the coils when I change out spark plugs.

I have had no issues since I ran the fuel injector cleaner through the truck.

Of course, now that I wrote this it probably won't start this AM!
 
I am curious to find out what happened when you moved the coils around. I have an 04 SR5 and I just had a coil go bad. Took it to mechanic because I was in a hurry to get it fixed and they charged me $300 to change one coil. Drove it away from mechanic and same problem occurred. Took it back to the mechanic and the found the gap in spark plug was .80 (pretty far from .44 required) they re-gapped it to specs and it is running fine. I am thinking about replacing the coils when I change out spark plugs.

Why are you going to replace all the coils? I would also request my money and old coil back from that shop.
 
If the problem comes back do a block leak test to check for exhaust in the coolant. A small leak in the head gasket is fairly common on the 4th or 6th cylinder on these engines after 120k. If it starts up and idles rough for a few seconds it could be due to a small amount of water leaking into the cylinder. The problem can be intermittent since the piston can rest at different positions in the cylinder when you turn off your car, leaving more or less room for water to leak in. It wouldn't hurt to do this test anyways since it is really cheap to buy the kit from an auto parts store. Plus if you do have a leak you could catch it soon enough before the block or head or both warp. Obviously its worse case scenario, but it wouldn't hurt to check. I just went through this on my 05 runner. I had an intermittent misfire/ rough idle for about 5-10 seconds on start up after leaving it overnight. I had no other signs or loss of performance. Ended up having a warped block and got a low mileage used engine to throw in.
 
Bad coil

Why are you going to replace all the coils? I would also request my money and old coil back from that shop.

I was thinking about replacing the coils because I had the one go bad and my SR5 has 183000 miles. and I figured if one goes bad the others are soon to follow. The mechanic I went to said the he switched the bad coil #5 with one of the other coils #3 and the reading came out as a bad coil in #3. So I don't think that I have any grounds to get my money back. Although, when I look at the sensors on the engine, it only looks like #5 has been touched.
 
I moved the coils and today the Check Engine light came on again. Stopped at AutoZone and they diagnosed cylinder 4 missfire again. Time for new plugs. This set has 76k on them.
 
Changing plugs

You can do it! I followed these instructions for changing the spark plugs in my '04 4R and it took me less than an hour and a half. From start to finish.
How To: Spark Plug Change (1 GR-FE) - Tacoma World Forums

I will tell you one thing that helped me tremendously was a magnetic socket wrench that I found at Advance auto parts. It was amazing. Very strong and I didn't drop a thing.

Buy Gear Wrench 5/8" x 6" Magnetic Swivel Spark Plug Socket 80546 at Advance Auto Parts

The one thing I was surprised about and maybe someone can help me out with this, is that my gas mileage has actually gone down. When I previously filled my gas tank, it would tell me I had around 405 miles (actually got about 380 miles) now it says I am gonna get about 390 and I actually get about 360 miles. Can anyone please explain this to me?
 
I changed them the first time so no worries here. On the road til Fri, look like something to to this weekend!
 
My money is on a blown head gasket. Did you ever have the block leak test done or did you just move the coils around?
 

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