Loaded 4R TEs- special order only?

shustr32

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Please forgive the noob question, but can the 5G 4R TE be found on dealer lots with KDSS and NAV options already installed? I have not been successful in finding any.

Also, somewhat related question-I noticed on Toyota's build your own site feature, KDSS and NAV are no longer given as options in the build your own section. Have these features been discontinued? It seems to me they wouldn't be, but I don't know.

Thanks for any info you have.
 
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Depends on where you live... Some markets get loaded ones while other markets, like mine, you can only get KDSS without nav... Who knows...
 
Interesting...and let me clarify my first post, I realize both of those options are factory installed and are not going to be something added by the dealer.

What I meant to ask is can these options be found together without having to special order a vehicle, or do you never really see any T4R TEs sitting on dealer lots with these options together?
 
Interesting...and let me clarify my first post, I realize both of those options are factory installed and are not going to be something added by the dealer.

What I meant to ask is can these options be found together without having to special order a vehicle, or do you never really see any T4R TEs sitting on dealer lots with these options together?

As already stated, it depends where you live. In L.A. just about every trail comes with KDSS and NAV. Here's our largest dealer New 2010 - 2009 Toyota Near Los Angeles | Prius, Avalon, Camry, Venza, Highlander, Land Cruiser
 
They had one TE with KDSS and NAV in all of Hawaii when I got mine. I guess it was just pure luck that they happened to have it when I called. I am sure the dealership can work something out to have one traded with another dealer.
 
Yep they can be had with both, none, or one or the other :-) Seems random to me but apparently they know what they are doing when they allocate... Ok maybe not!
 
Response to 5th GEN Trail ED with KDSS and NAV

From what I can findout - most if not all Trail Editions do NOT come with the NAV preinstalled. It's is an option that I believe that you can order.

Up in Toronto Canada - the general finding is that most 5th Gens that you see at dealerships are either ordered by a customer or dealership owned. At least 3 dealers that I know of in this area do not have any readily available models to just purchase off the lot. I was luck to see a limited and a trail edition at two separate dealerships - both where the manager's personal vehicle.

So unfortunately, unless the dealership is very large and they are ordering to have inventory on their lot - I believe the answer is unfortunately no to KDSS and NAVI.

I have ordered a 5th GEN Ltd. and its been a a very painful 3 weeks so far and counting. I am sure it won't arrive until December.

Best of luck finding one.
 
They had one TE with KDSS and NAV in all of Hawaii when I got mine. I guess it was just pure luck that they happened to have it when I called. I am sure the dealership can work something out to have one traded with another dealer.

Nice pics Mr.Grimm...what island are you on? My buddy lives on the big island. I want to go visit again so much...Hawaii is the best. Any more pics of your TE T4R? I'm esp curious to see the interior, I haven't found any good interior photos...
 
Let's clear-up the misinformation:

First, Canada and the United States do not get identical packages from Toyota so make sure you know which side of the border your advice is coming from.

Second, Toyota itself initially decides what packages and options it is going to offer. For example, you cannot get a TE with Leather interior and you can't get an SR5 in Shoreline Blue Pearl. Their initial production run is largely decided by Toyota.

Third, the regional distributors then place large orders and decide if they are going to add items at the port, like the running boards that came with some SR5/LE 4Rs in the south east.

Fourth, the local fleet managers then place "orders" for what they think is going to sell in their market, which get placed with the regional managers or with Toyota directly depending on how large the "fleet" operation is and how many dealerships they cover.

Fifth, individual dealers get what the regional and/or fleet sends them but they can and do trade with other dealers or make what is called a "Preference Request" with Toyota, although that might get funneled through regional/fleet first. Regardless, it is submitted with their monthly allocation request and will be filled by either rerouting an unclaimed vehicle already on a transport from the plant or added to the build plans of the next production run. this is why most dealers who take "special orders" (which is really a preference request) give the usual 60-90 day estimate and won't guarantee it will ever arrive.

Lastly, Toyota's own "Build your own" website is FUBAR'd for the 2011MY. I can build something in Portland but it's not possible in Seattle... yet they all land in the same port.

I know all this because back in January my local dealer told me that they couldn't get a Trail Edition in blue. Then I showed them the website. They then told me they couldn't get it with Nav and with KDSS in blue, so I showed them two sitting on a lot @ Big Island Toyota in Hawaii. He then called his "sales manager" who supposedly told him they couldn't order them. A month later, after I had already done all the homework and talked to dealers in 5 states, a different local dealer was willing to place the preference request and take my deposit. I have never worked so hard to spend $43k in my life. Hopefully this will be the last car I ever have to buy in person.
 
Seattle, sweet T4R. I love the blue.

What you have is exactly what I am after, either that or a Red one. In my parts (MA, near Boston) if you're lucky enough to find one it's either black or silver, and generally has neither option. I am willing to travel but feel like that is going to negate any ability to negotiate on price since it shows strong interest/desperation if you're not buying local!
 
Seattle, sweet T4R. I love the blue.

What you have is exactly what I am after, either that or a Red one. In my parts (MA, near Boston) if you're lucky enough to find one it's either black or silver, and generally has neither option. I am willing to travel but feel like that is going to negate any ability to negotiate on price since it shows strong interest/desperation if you're not buying local!
I had the same problem. I decided that I would rather get and enjoy driving exactly what I wanted rather than try and save a couple of grand trying to get the best deal and playing the waiting game. I paid $38,949 with the Nav/KDSS and the Remote Start added at the port and I was happy with the price even if the process sucked mule ass.

If you want one in Red, I suggest searching the southwestern state Toyota websites... or find a local dealer willing to place a preference request. Blue and Red TE's do not sit on the lot for very long and are not made in large numbers.
 
The 2011 TEs still seem somewhat rare depending on what you are looking for, but it is early in this years production. There are very few, if any, 2011 TE models with KDSS and Navigation here in the Southeast. But there are several Mag Grey, Black and even a Salsa Red; all with KDSS and Nav in the Northeast. I've been waiting on a 2011 Silver TE with KDSS and Nav and no one can locate one yet. Patiently waiting...

Like SeattleMike said, who would of thought spending 40K would be so hard!
 
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Nice pics Mr.Grimm...what island are you on? My buddy lives on the big island. I want to go visit again so much...Hawaii is the best. Any more pics of your TE T4R? I'm esp curious to see the interior, I haven't found any good interior photos...

Thanks! Those are the only pictures of the 4Runner that I have. I will take more once the wheels/tires/suspension are installed (hopefully next week). I live on Oahu, but only until about May, then I am moving back to San Diego. I have been to Maui and the Big Island. Out of those 3, Maui is definitely the best. I want to hit up Kauai sometime though.
 
Please forgive the noob question, but can the 5G 4R TE be found on dealer lots with KDSS and NAV options already installed? I have not been successful in finding any.

Went to cars.com did a search, had to expand it to 500 miles from my zip to find some with KDSS/NAV, but found a few 11' so they are out there, just have to travel!
 
Thanks you guys for all the good info. I just need to get rid of my car (01 S4 avant) so I can start seriously shopping for a truck.

If any of you guys have pic galleries of your TE 4Rs feel free to post them up as i'd love to check them out. :)
 
loaded TE

First, find a dealer and agree on a price. Second, have the dealer find (AND SECURE) the 4R you're looking for. Finally, be willing to either pay a little extra delivery charge (say if it's more than a state away) or offer to pick it up. The 4R you want is out there....you might just have to actually go out there to get it. I originally was prepared to take delivery of my 2010 TE with KDSS/NAV in Brooklyn (I live in Columbus, Ohio). Luckily for me, my dealer found the one I was looking for in Pittsburgh. Best of luck!!! Don't settle for less than what you want.
 
shustr32: i'm in maine and got my loaded salsa red Trail in march. it can be done. work the Internet sales depts of several dealers in tandem to get what you want; i had negotiations in motion with 6 dealers when i got mine, which sounds far more painful than it was.

my advice to you is not to set foot in a dealership until you have a final price in hand and even when that's done, explain that you're only coming in to sign papers and take ownership — not to endure another round of negotiating at the finance manager's desk.
 

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