Looked and looked. Head spinning. You decide!

[miller92063]

What tires should I get.

265/70/17 Load will probably be E.

 

[FrontRange4Runner]

What tires should I get.

265/70/17 Load will probably be E.

I wont vote because I have the Cooper ATP and not the AT3. That said the ATP is an awesome tire and from now on, Cooper will be one of the first places I will look for tires. The AT3 also won AT tire of the year recently from some publication that I cant currently find lol.... Anyways, every tire you have listed is pretty good so "the best" will be very subjective. My ATP's are E rated, and properly inflated, the ride harshness goes up significantly. Just something to keep in mind and GL on your tire search! If it makes any difference, my vote would have been for the Coopers simply because of my recent experience with the brand.

 

[Morphyne]

Load Range E tires only make sense for rigs that see a ton of off road time or SHTF rigs. If yours is a daily driver where MPGs matter, don't get E range tires.

 

[RCs4Runner]

Jeez, Groundhogs day again!?? :lookout:

Let me guess what's next...which muffler to go w/?

 

[HokieRunner]

I was disappointed there wasn't a 'wooden wagon wheel' option...

If you looked and looked and your head is spinning...why not sleep on it a few days? Then choose whatever tire suits YOUR needs best. Not what the popular tire vote happens to be.

 

[ebg18t]

Do you need a load range E? I would expect if you need a load range E you have upgraded your springs to heavy load capacity and doing some heavy loads.. But based in your suspension thread you are just doing the super common Bilstein 5100's.

I can appreciate your thinking that you are doing something so different that these items have not been discussed. But both threads ended with the super common options...

With that in mind I will vote for the ever popular Cooper AT3. No reason for us to reinvent the wheel.

Don't take my post the wrong way. I posted a thread yesterday that I know will harbor mixed results/opinions.

 

[S p a r k y]

Google images is my favorite way to look at tires. Type in what you want to see "Toyo AT 2" maybe even size or type of vehicle and search images. You will see all kinds of pics, click on pics and see reviews. Will open up lots of conversations on everything.

I was going to go with AT 2's, but I ran into an unbelievable deal on Duratrac's. I say AT 2's

 

[Morphyne]

tirerack.com is your friend they have a great review and sorting system.

IMO and what I have heard from others that the best tire depends heavily on what you plan on doing with it.

For me, I need an AT tire that will survive highway use with good ride and low noise. For that the best options are the Michelins and the Good Year silent armors. I am going with the silent armors because they look cool and they have the word silent in the name. So they had better not be loud....

 

[miller92063]

Load Range E tires only make sense for rigs that see a ton of off road time or SHTF rigs. If yours is a daily driver where MPGs matter, don't get E range tires.

This will be my daily driven SHTF rig. One of the reason I want the E. However, I'm not sure I really want to hear the wife complain about the bumpy ride. I had E load Terra Grappler on my slightly lifted ram though and I'm guessing it wont be that bad.

 

[gshadow325]

This will be my daily driven SHTF rig. One of the reason I want the E. However, I'm not sure I really want to hear the wife complain about the bumpy ride. I had E load Terra Grappler on my slightly lifted ram though and I'm guessing it wont be that bad.

no bfg ko's on your list?

 

[verbalkint18]

I just had E's installed on my rig last Thursday. Very long story short, the exact tire I wanted only came in load range E. The install shop notified me the day of install and asked if I still wanted them. In research, I read they would cause a stiffer ride but I told them to go with them anyway. The ride quality of my 4R is now substantially BETTER than it was before. I couldn't be happier.

That's the short story. Now, two things to consider:
1. I read E tires are typically inflated to higher psi than C and D range. When I asked the shop about it, they said to always inflate my tires to factory psi specs (inside door jam). Don't know what it is, but it's less than what I read for E range. That may promote a softer ride. Whether it's good for the tire or not, I didn't look that far into it.

2. I also lifted my 4R 2.5" with the basic Bilstein 5100's and new springs. This may also promote a softer ride, although everything I read said it would give my truck a stiffer ride.

Bottom line, I was anticipating a very stiff ride with the E's and it turned out great. My ride is now A LOT more comfortable than it was before.

ALSO, my factory 18" limited wheels and silent armor tires are still FS in the classifieds. JUST SAYING!!

 

[gshadow325]

When I asked the shop about it, they said to always inflate my tires to factory psi specs (inside door jam). Don't know what it is, but it's less than what I read for E range.

Bottom line, I was anticipating a very stiff ride with the E's and it turned out great. My ride is now A LOT more comfortable than it was before.

The shop that gave you that advice is incorrect. Tires should be inflated to manufactures recommendations. Proper tire inflating, tire should be square on the ground. Under inflated tires will have uneven wear on outsides of tires. Over inflated tires will have more tire wear on the center. Proper tire inflation will have even tire wear.

Your vehicle may say 30psi, for example. I don't know what the oem psi is, but on the new tires it might need to be inflated to 38psi. Thus the advice is wrong.

I also went to a Load E tire with my bfgoodrich KO's, ride is as good if not better than my previous tires, 275.70.18 bfg rugged trail ta, a regular tire iirc. I was expecting a rough ride too. My psi right now is at 44psi, ride is good.

 

[cacarbuff]

I'm running the E-load Nitto Terras on my truck right now and I hate them. Horribly heavy and uncomfortable (bad mpg's with a 50lb 31" tire), and not particularly good off road. They're pretty common around here because they have the lightening bolts on the sidewalls, but I love my brother's AT3s way better. Next set of tires, I'm going to go with p-rated AT3 for commuting and some bigger km2s for trails.

 

[miller92063]

I have done 3 pairs on my last three trucks and loved the Terra Grapplers!! Cant believe they get no love here. I guess they are just too heavy and still for a lighter SUV??

And KO's are just too much. Another $200 more than most tires.

 

[gshadow325]

I don't see much of a fuel difference with my 33s. Might be that I have a v8, in the last 8000 miles I have done a ton of maintainance, plugs, both cats, all four o2 sensors, maf and tb/wp. I like the terra grappler ride, live the trail grappler look. Food for thought, KO's probably will dry rot before it wears out.

 

[miller92063]

I like the look of the KO's, but my only experience with them was on a used truck and they were about 35-40% so they weren't the best.

How do they do with rain and snow?

 

[gshadow325]

I like the look of the KO's, but my only experience with them was on a used truck and they were about 35-40% so they weren't the best.

How do they do with rain and snow?

i bought mine used. so i dont have much experience with them in the snow. rain is good, no complaints. mud, sand and trails is great.

here is a 10% left bfg ko and a new bfg ko. just some eye candy. this was a few weeks ago

 

[ebg18t]

Steve - did you do the body chop to fit your 33's?

 

[gshadow325]

Steve - did you do the body chop to fit your 33's?

[MENTION=55855]zopperman[/MENTION] asked me the same thing when i told him what size tires i was running and setup.

No, didnt even know what that was till he showed me the other day. i dont know why i didnt need it and showed him my alignment sheets

 

[LOSTR4]

You'll have the best tread life with the AT2s (65k miles). They're quiet and perform very well on and off road.