hobosapien
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I only ask because I'd like to do it with an LS3 Erod. I have a v8 4th gen already. Granted a lot of work would need to be done but I'm curious if someone out there has already done it.
LS-swapped 4th gen? Has it been done?
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hobosapien
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Where is there a SC that's available for the 4th gen? I haven't seen any for sale.
Inv4drZm
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You might be able to find an old TRD model, or URD makes a kit. URD's might just be for 05-09 V8's but maybe they make one that is compatible with the older V8's, I'm not sure.
waypoint
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I swapped an LS1 into my old Camaro years ago and I've been considering one for my T4R. Even a 5.3L truck LS engine would be a good upgrade in my case w/ a 165K mile V6 and stretched timing chain.
The engines are plentiful on LKQ and car-part.com and cheap.
Just offhand recalling the old Camaro swap, here's a stab at the problems to solve:
Engine mounts (I bought my Camaro mounts pre-fabricated)
Wiring: could use a standalone harness and 12VDC feeds?
Fuel pressure: LS wants 58psi constant delivery pressure
Cooling hoses to radiator and heater core
Transmission bellhousing and torque converter/flywheel bolt patterns
Instrumentation e.g. coolant temp, tach, etc.
LS PCM programming to disable VATS and unused sensors
But this swap also adds the complexity of engine control outputs to the Toyota controller(s) which are used for transmission, 4WD, ABS, etc. These may need to know engine RPMs, for example...how to convert the LS PCM tach output into useable form is a big question.
The engines are plentiful on LKQ and car-part.com and cheap.
Just offhand recalling the old Camaro swap, here's a stab at the problems to solve:
Engine mounts (I bought my Camaro mounts pre-fabricated)
Wiring: could use a standalone harness and 12VDC feeds?
Fuel pressure: LS wants 58psi constant delivery pressure
Cooling hoses to radiator and heater core
Transmission bellhousing and torque converter/flywheel bolt patterns
Instrumentation e.g. coolant temp, tach, etc.
LS PCM programming to disable VATS and unused sensors
But this swap also adds the complexity of engine control outputs to the Toyota controller(s) which are used for transmission, 4WD, ABS, etc. These may need to know engine RPMs, for example...how to convert the LS PCM tach output into useable form is a big question.
hobosapien
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For the money it would take to pay someone to figure all this out doesn't seem worth it.
kyle_uran
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But it would be so sweet
AuSeeker
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I agree and not to mention just a LS3 E-Rod crate motor will cost you more than most 4th Gens are worth and then you still have to work out ALL of the other stuff which will most likely add up to be the same as the cost of the motor, BUT you would have one very expensive but Bad Ass 4th Gen in the end, stuff like this is what "Dreams are made of"!!
Direwolf82
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I would think the easiest thing to do would an ls with a 4l60 and your choice of transfer case. Make up some driveshafts to convert to the Toyota diffs and start rolling. Or go all out and swap to Dana's at the same time.
Replacing an A750 with a transmission that has a horrendous track record in regards to reliability hardly seems like a logical solution.
A 4l80 or any 80/90 series, yes. Any 60 or 65 series, absolutely not, they're garbage.
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Direwolf82
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Well, I guess you can go ahead and where I said 60 just imagine I said 80, no attitude meant. Or put a trans in that if it does blow up there are many many replacements for way cheaper than the stock trans. Whichever way you'd prefer to look at it. I'd put a six speed manual in if I had a choice.
Although I personally have not had any of my Chevy friends have issues with the 60's in their vehicles. I guess it's the same as I don't know anyone who has had a v6 head gasket blow out but you hear plenty of stories of it happening.
Inv4drZm
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Instead of spending the 6-10k getting the LS to play nicely, why not just dump it into turning the japanese muscle your 4Runner came with into a monster. Its theoretically a good starting point, all iron with some thick cylinder walls. Throw in some internals and add a supercharger w/10 psi of boost, should be good for at least +200hp (400whp total).
The transmission would probably need to be upgraded at 350-400whp anyway. Add $2-4k.
The unique factor alone would be worth any extra cost over the LS swap.
The transmission would probably need to be upgraded at 350-400whp anyway. Add $2-4k.
The unique factor alone would be worth any extra cost over the LS swap.
That_Titanium_4RNR
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Every 60 blows up eventually. Typically right at the 200k mark too. It blows even faster if you have any upgrades to the engine for added power.
Direwolf82
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I guess the real point of saying swap the trans is it would be far easier to do the swap with a Chevy trans rather than try to get the Toyota and Chevy systems to interact.
Insert whatever flavor trans you so desire.
Insert whatever flavor trans you so desire.
