Moab and Ouray Advice: How to get the most of our time there?

Just off the Alpine loop is corkscrew gulch which is pretty amazing too. Also check out fs 31 I believe that goes right past the Yankee Girl mine, among others and gets you on some dirt. Black bear is amazing if the weather holds. I did it on my BMW R1200Gs and that was epic. One bad move at the crux and you are on a 1000' foot fall/express trip to the pandora mine


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I made a trip out to Moab about a month ago. Arches is neat, but we didn't spend an entire day there at all. The lines were long, and there were way too many people at every pull off. This was a Thursday also. We came in through the main entrance, stopped at a few pull offs and then eventually decided we were going to do Tower Arch Trail, which is an off-road trail in Arches that takes you to Tower Arch. We saw one other person back here. This is a fun trail. Also, to avoid lines in Arches you can come in on Willow Springs Road, keep driving past the campground, and then the road gets a little rough and turns more into a trail. Then there's a fence with an opening saying you are entering Arches NP. You don't need to pay the $25 fee or wait in line. This is how we exited the park, I didn't know you could enter this way or I would have. From here you can take Eye of the Whale trail to Eye of the Whale arch and then this trail intersects with Tower Arch Trail. If you go left at the T it takes you to Tower Arch. Right takes you to a rocky hill climb which then leads to a smooth gravel road that takes you to the actual touristy part of the park.

Canyonlands is amazing, but you need permits for both day trips and overnight. Get these as soon as you can because they go quick. We camped at the very beginning of the trail and very end. The day in between campsites was very long but worth it.

TOTW is an awesome trail, but is starting to get torn up. It sounds like your truck is capable of it though. Fins n Things is super fun, with some incredibly steep parts that make you say "I gotta drive down that!"

Also, for easy trails with nice scenery check out Gemini Bridges and Long Canyon Road. Both only take an hour or two each, but they're fun. And a can't miss trail in my opinion is Onion Creek. It's got amazing scenery, 27 shallow creek crossings (Not sure if they'll be dry in August or not), and is just a fun trail. This is a trail you can do in a 2WD 4Runner most likely, its easy, but a lot of fun splashing through the creeks. Onion Creek isn't far from the TOTW trail head. When you are standing on TOTW you can actually see the Onion Creek trail running through the canyon.

It looks like you're from VA which is a long ways, just like I drove in from AL. My suggestion is to have a list/plan of lots of trails to run and things to do, this way if you end up with extra time you aren't fiddling around with trying to find something to do, instead you can just pick something and go. It's a long drive for us east cost people so we gotta make the most of it. You won't regret it!

Here's my trip report from my trip last month. There's lots and lots of pictures and decent descriptions of the trails. Maybe this'll help you understand what you're getting into out there.

Link to trip report in my build>> http://www.toyota-4runner.org/3rd-gen-t4rs/208503-unners-build-2001-toyota-4runner-4x4-33.html
 
I made a trip out to Moab about a month ago. Arches is neat, but we didn't spend an entire day there at all. The lines were long, and there were way too many people at every pull off. This was a Thursday also. We came in through the main entrance, stopped at a few pull offs and then eventually decided we were going to do Tower Arch Trail, which is an off-road trail in Arches that takes you to Tower Arch. We saw one other person back here. This is a fun trail. Also, to avoid lines in Arches you can come in on Willow Springs Road, keep driving past the campground, and then the road gets a little rough and turns more into a trail. Then there's a fence with an opening saying you are entering Arches NP. You don't need to pay the $25 fee or wait in line. This is how we exited the park, I didn't know you could enter this way or I would have. From here you can take Eye of the Whale trail to Eye of the Whale arch and then this trail intersects with Tower Arch Trail. If you go left at the T it takes you to Tower Arch. Right takes you to a rocky hill climb which then leads to a smooth gravel road that takes you to the actual touristy part of the park.

Canyonlands is amazing, but you need permits for both day trips and overnight. Get these as soon as you can because they go quick. We camped at the very beginning of the trail and very end. The day in between campsites was very long but worth it.

TOTW is an awesome trail, but is starting to get torn up. It sounds like your truck is capable of it though. Fins n Things is super fun, with some incredibly steep parts that make you say "I gotta drive down that!"

Also, for easy trails with nice scenery check out Gemini Bridges and Long Canyon Road. Both only take an hour or two each, but they're fun. And a can't miss trail in my opinion is Onion Creek. It's got amazing scenery, 27 shallow creek crossings (Not sure if they'll be dry in August or not), and is just a fun trail. This is a trail you can do in a 2WD 4Runner most likely, its easy, but a lot of fun splashing through the creeks. Onion Creek isn't far from the TOTW trail head. When you are standing on TOTW you can actually see the Onion Creek trail running through the canyon.

It looks like you're from VA which is a long ways, just like I drove in from AL. My suggestion is to have a list/plan of lots of trails to run and things to do, this way if you end up with extra time you aren't fiddling around with trying to find something to do, instead you can just pick something and go. It's a long drive for us east cost people so we gotta make the most of it. You won't regret it!

Here's my trip report from my trip last month. There's lots and lots of pictures and decent descriptions of the trails. Maybe this'll help you understand what you're getting into out there.

Link to trip report in my build>> http://www.toyota-4runner.org/3rd-gen-t4rs/208503-unners-build-2001-toyota-4runner-4x4-33.html

I appreciate all the great advice. We'll be sure to have several trails in mind, as you mentioned, and I think we might try to get into arches the way you mentioned.

I have heard that TOTW requires 33s. I've only got 32s, I'm not really worried about it, but should I be?
 
I appreciate all the great advice. We'll be sure to have several trails in mind, as you mentioned, and I think we might try to get into arches the way you mentioned.

I have heard that TOTW requires 33s. I've only got 32s, I'm not really worried about it, but should I be?

I did it with worn 32's (255/75/17). The green extended cab tacoma had the same size tires as you in KO2s and he made it. 33's aren't necessary. You'll be dragging the rear bumper a lot on the way down, and might hit the underbody skids a few times, but other than that you should be good.
 
I'd recommend the ouray inn, great people and a nice clean hotel. Stayed there last September. We did Ophir pass there and it was pretty mild. If you get to silverton handlebar's has good food and great little place. Last dollar road was scenic but longer than I thought it would be.

We actually booked that place several months ago! They have great reviews.
 
We actually booked that place several months ago! They have great reviews.

Great couple run it, very friendly and cute dog. Nothing overly fancy, but very clean place. The guy went down to our room with us and showed us how to use the heat/air and whatnot. They have cheese and wine each night and breakfast. We ate at some Irish bar I think, pretty good.
 
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A little late to the thread - but there's so many good runs in Utah and Colorado that you can't go wrong. I've done both many times as well as Arizona. A bad day wheelin is still better than a good day at work.:dance:
The traildamage website is one of the best online sources for these destinations. I also carry a trail series of books with me. These have a lot of trails by difficulty ratings. One source is FunTreks.com https://www.funtreks.com/funtreks-guidebooks
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Up hill has right of way

That's absolutely correct if you're in fact headed uphill. The reason I used the term 'downhill vehicle' is because it's the common term used for the vehicle situated downhill from you, not which direction the vehicle is headed. If the vehicle in front of you (while you're both heading downhill) needs to back up, in your world who'd have the right of way? We're talking location, not orientation; and right-of-way means relative to any vehicle moving in the opposite direction. The crowd you wheel with must use different terminology than the crowd I wheel with, and have been for over 30 years.
 
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That's absolutely correct if you're in fact headed uphill. The reason I used the term 'downhill vehicle' is because it's the common term used for the vehicle situated downhill from you, not which direction the vehicle is headed. If the vehicle in front of you (while you're both heading downhill) needs to back up, in your world who'd have the right of way? We're talking location, not orientation; and right-of-way means relative to any vehicle moving in the opposite direction. The crowd you wheel with must use different terminology than the crowd I wheel with, and have been for over 30 years.
I understand what you are talking about. I was referring to one way trails on mountain roads.

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I've only been on 1 one-way mountain trail in all the trails I've done.....that being the switchbacks on Black Bear; so I'm not sure what you're referring to. And if you're on a one-way trail you shouldn't encounter another vehicle coming the opposite direction so the point is moot.
 
I've only been on 1 one-way mountain trail in all the trails I've done.....that being the switchbacks on Black Bear; so I'm not sure what you're referring to. And if you're on a one-way trail you shouldn't encounter another vehicle coming the opposite direction so the point is moot.
One lane. Sorry

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Great thread. Heading to both Moab for 4 nights and Ouray for 2 in mid-September along with stops at RMNP and Colorado Springs. I'll add my thanks for all the good suggestions. Bought the Moab and Colorado Back Roads guides by Charles A. Wells and they are fantastic.
 
The .gov size about this trail says you need a "high clearance vehicle" but does not define it. How high is high? :)

Not particularly high. Any stock 4wd 4runner will do fine. The bigger issue is having low-range gearing, because both Murphy Hogback and Hardscrabble Hill are seriously steep, 35-40%. People have done it in Suburu Outbacks, but they have to take a run at the hills and keep momentum up. The 4runner gearing makes it much easier.
 
The .gov size about this trail says you need a "high clearance vehicle" but does not define it. How high is high? :)

I had a simple 3 inch lift on my 4th gen. But it all comes down to driver. I was able to go a bit faster, but once camped we saw a Forester drive by. They just had to take it a little slower and pick the perfect line at some points. But its a pretty easy but FUN run.
 

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