I've got a 2002 4Runner Sport and have a 2 1/2" Daystar suspension lift already installed but that only allows me to use LT275/70/R16 on 16x10 wheels. I would like to get more height so as to allow for LT285/75/R16 (33" tires). I'm not a hardcore offroader so I don't need heavy duty suspension modifications. I also would like to have the simplest and reasonable priced modifications if possible. Any suggestions would be appreciated.
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vandert
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Check Downey
Not sure of there site any more but I know Downey offroad carries a Rancho lift, they also have more alternatives, but I'm not sure, I know that your Runner is practically the same suspension as the Tacoma, you might be able to put the Fabtech 6" or Trailmaster 6" lift, possibly a Pro Comp 4 inch as well. Check with the guys at www.tacomaterritory.com and ask them but I'm pretty sure you have the same front suspension, you would have to find another way to lift the back, I have some idea's if the front works off of a Taco.
T
Here's the link:
http://www.downeyoff-road.com/
Alot of people drop around 2-3 g's and just get the SAS for the 2nd and 3rd gens.
T Out
Not sure of there site any more but I know Downey offroad carries a Rancho lift, they also have more alternatives, but I'm not sure, I know that your Runner is practically the same suspension as the Tacoma, you might be able to put the Fabtech 6" or Trailmaster 6" lift, possibly a Pro Comp 4 inch as well. Check with the guys at www.tacomaterritory.com and ask them but I'm pretty sure you have the same front suspension, you would have to find another way to lift the back, I have some idea's if the front works off of a Taco.
T
Here's the link:
http://www.downeyoff-road.com/
Alot of people drop around 2-3 g's and just get the SAS for the 2nd and 3rd gens.
T Out
Good Times
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try looking into some OME's as they have a full coil/shock kit that'll give you enough lift to fit 285's. (one of the best bang for the buck for full coil / shock replacement). www.arbusa.com
of course, you'll still encounter some rubbing but that should help you out there. also your wheels are 16x10? or 16x8 (as most ppl get 16x8's).
good luck
of course, you'll still encounter some rubbing but that should help you out there. also your wheels are 16x10? or 16x8 (as most ppl get 16x8's).
good luck
Good Times
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nope you won't need any other mods using the ome's.
since you have a 3rd gen, if you want to restore your cv angles, you can also do a diff drop mod which lowers your front diff but that's optional
but it's always a good mod for any offroader.
16x10's are pretty wide but i guess it's good
good luck!
since you have a 3rd gen, if you want to restore your cv angles, you can also do a diff drop mod which lowers your front diff but that's optional
but it's always a good mod for any offroader.16x10's are pretty wide but i guess it's good
good luck!
Good Times
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Most ppl that run 285's have 8" width wheels so that's the reason why i asked if you had the 16x10 or 16x8.
Cornfed's are just another spacer just like Daystar/Revtek/Donahoe Racing. All are great spacers btw.
I've seen 3rd gen owners run 2.5" lift using various kinds of suspension technologies (spacer, coil/shock, coilover) and have 285's (with minimal rubbing). So, anything is possible. There is quite a few 3rd gen owners running 285's on yotatech so you can check that forum out as well.
Most config that ppl run are the OME's as alot of ppl swear by them (not personally using them, I can't really comment).
Good luck!
Cornfed's are just another spacer just like Daystar/Revtek/Donahoe Racing. All are great spacers btw.
I've seen 3rd gen owners run 2.5" lift using various kinds of suspension technologies (spacer, coil/shock, coilover) and have 285's (with minimal rubbing). So, anything is possible. There is quite a few 3rd gen owners running 285's on yotatech so you can check that forum out as well.
Most config that ppl run are the OME's as alot of ppl swear by them (not personally using them, I can't really comment).
Good luck!
vandert
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OME"s are the way
I don't know where you can find a differential drop but if you can that would be the stuff, as far as OME quality, I've never seen a spring flex so well and hold its advertised ride height. They are crazy in the flex department, most people have to get limiting straps
I would definately recommend OME, you could do a differental drop, if you can find it, then add your spacer on top of the OME and still have the same CV angles that you have now if you get a good differential drop and have around 51/2 to 5 inches of lift if you wanted it. They also make body lifts and gap guards that are fairly cheap if your not really into off roading, don't go over 2 inches though as you end up having to change alot of stuff for the three inch.
T
I don't know where you can find a differential drop but if you can that would be the stuff, as far as OME quality, I've never seen a spring flex so well and hold its advertised ride height. They are crazy in the flex department, most people have to get limiting straps
I would definately recommend OME, you could do a differental drop, if you can find it, then add your spacer on top of the OME and still have the same CV angles that you have now if you get a good differential drop and have around 51/2 to 5 inches of lift if you wanted it. They also make body lifts and gap guards that are fairly cheap if your not really into off roading, don't go over 2 inches though as you end up having to change alot of stuff for the three inch.
T
just double checking
So I just want to double check this info before I move forward. If I add 2.5inch spacers/springs to my 2.5 inch suspension lift, will this require any other mods or will it be ok? I would rather not do the diff drop if I didn't have to. Thanks for the useful info fellas!
So I just want to double check this info before I move forward. If I add 2.5inch spacers/springs to my 2.5 inch suspension lift, will this require any other mods or will it be ok? I would rather not do the diff drop if I didn't have to. Thanks for the useful info fellas!
vandert
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No
You will have to use a differential drop to run that much lift, otherwise you will render your CV's dead, that is too much angle on them they will be shot in no time, also you would not have any/much use for the 4wd system with that.
The only option above 3 inches on the 3rd gen is to do a differential drop and then go up more.
The other option is to do a Body lift, they are around 70-150 bucks but are pretty involved to install. Check out 4 Wheel parts for a body lift if you decide to go that route, I'm not recommending them, they can show you the different options though.
T
You will have to use a differential drop to run that much lift, otherwise you will render your CV's dead, that is too much angle on them they will be shot in no time, also you would not have any/much use for the 4wd system with that.
The only option above 3 inches on the 3rd gen is to do a differential drop and then go up more.
The other option is to do a Body lift, they are around 70-150 bucks but are pretty involved to install. Check out 4 Wheel parts for a body lift if you decide to go that route, I'm not recommending them, they can show you the different options though.
T
Good Times
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since you have a 3rd gen, i'd make sure that you get the diff drop. get the 3" suspension lift and then add whatever body lift (1-3") you need.
I would never go beyond 3" of suspension lift (w or w/o the diff drop) on a 3rd gen. (diff drop is highly recommended by ever 3rd gen owner).
I've seen 3rd gen owners running 2.5" lift and 1" body to fit 285's nicely so that might be good too
Try this link for some 411:
http://www.yotatech.com/showthread.php?t=44741
good luck
I would never go beyond 3" of suspension lift (w or w/o the diff drop) on a 3rd gen. (diff drop is highly recommended by ever 3rd gen owner).
I've seen 3rd gen owners running 2.5" lift and 1" body to fit 285's nicely so that might be good too
Try this link for some 411:
http://www.yotatech.com/showthread.php?t=44741
good luck
vandert
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I mentioned body lifts before
Personally I don't understand why so many people are agains them, thats the only lift I had on my T100 and I ran 33's, I had a two inch body and homemade gap guards out of black felt and pop rivits
My ultimate recommendation would be:
Leave your daystar, or get the OME depending on how much flex you want, then go with a rodger brown 1 or 2 inch body lift. Between the two you could run 33's easy and possibly 35's if its for looks and not to much flexing.
T
Personally I don't understand why so many people are agains them, thats the only lift I had on my T100 and I ran 33's, I had a two inch body and homemade gap guards out of black felt and pop rivits
My ultimate recommendation would be:
Leave your daystar, or get the OME depending on how much flex you want, then go with a rodger brown 1 or 2 inch body lift. Between the two you could run 33's easy and possibly 35's if its for looks and not to much flexing.
T
Good Times
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i'd say shy away from the sas unless you know for sure you're gonna be running 37+. it's just not worth going sas by running 35's.
the problem is that you'll get very top heavy once you do the sas so unless you have big plans, it's just not worth it. will be more offroad worthy? that all depends on your opinion of what kind of offroading you'll be doing. the long term is that the sas will be easier to maintain as it's less prone for breakage but at what cost right? (sas done the right way is $$$$ - if you're gonna do it right, do it right the first time).
Anyway, as for the 4th gen getting a sas, that'd be interesting. our new 8" front diff's are as strong as a d44 so that'll be hard toss up on why go up to a sas when you know the components you run are strong enough... but that's another debate.
good luck!
the problem is that you'll get very top heavy once you do the sas so unless you have big plans, it's just not worth it. will be more offroad worthy? that all depends on your opinion of what kind of offroading you'll be doing. the long term is that the sas will be easier to maintain as it's less prone for breakage but at what cost right? (sas done the right way is $$$$ - if you're gonna do it right, do it right the first time).
Anyway, as for the 4th gen getting a sas, that'd be interesting. our new 8" front diff's are as strong as a d44 so that'll be hard toss up on why go up to a sas when you know the components you run are strong enough... but that's another debate.
good luck!
Darren
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I'm not sure why you think you need more than 2.5" to clear the height of 285's. You don't even need an inch of lift to accomodate that. Height is not the problem, it is the width. But since you say you're running a 10" wheel now, then you aren't going to have much more of a problem with a 285. Forget adding a different brand of lift. 2.5", or whatever, is still 2.5". To summarize, just get new tires, that is likely all you'll need to do. If you have substantially more rubbing, add a 1" body lift, which contrary to what vandert indictates, they are not "involved" to install. You can always trim and pound away as necessary. It doesn't sound like your 'Runner sees much non-pavement, so rubbing may very well be the least of your concerns anyway.
The axle swap route is hardly the way to go just to fit 33's. :rolleye2: In fact, that's not the way to go, period.
The axle swap route is hardly the way to go just to fit 33's. :rolleye2: In fact, that's not the way to go, period.
vandert
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Guess I was confused
Every body lift I have did personally requires you to take out the seats and most of your carpet, then loosen all bolts, then jack up one side of the vehicle at a time and place the new pucks in. Then proceed to do the other side and repeat. After which you will need to possibly add a shifter extention, add new hoses, add steering linkage, and relocate your bumpers.
If thats not involved I don't know what is.
I don't know the individuals experience but if all he's ever done is add the 2.5 inch daystars a body lift is going to seem like a nightmare. The quickest I've ever added a 2 inch body lift was to a "simple" jeep wrangler for a buddy and it took 5 hrs. I'm no pro at body lifts, but I'm pretty good. Unless you work on cars constantly, a body lift IS an involved process.
Just my .02
T
Every body lift I have did personally requires you to take out the seats and most of your carpet, then loosen all bolts, then jack up one side of the vehicle at a time and place the new pucks in. Then proceed to do the other side and repeat. After which you will need to possibly add a shifter extention, add new hoses, add steering linkage, and relocate your bumpers.
If thats not involved I don't know what is.
I don't know the individuals experience but if all he's ever done is add the 2.5 inch daystars a body lift is going to seem like a nightmare. The quickest I've ever added a 2 inch body lift was to a "simple" jeep wrangler for a buddy and it took 5 hrs. I'm no pro at body lifts, but I'm pretty good. Unless you work on cars constantly, a body lift IS an involved process.
Just my .02
T
new tires?
Darren-
Thanks for your input. You say that I should have no problem fitting the 285s with a 2.5" lift so why did the guys at the shop say that they wouldn't fit? They said there was too much rub. And your suggestion to get new tires? How would that make a difference? I've got BFG All-Terrains right now.
On another note, I saw a 1" differential drop for 3rd gen 4Runners. Should I utilize this if I'm going to add 1 inch of lift to my existing suspension lift? And you're correct in assuming that this rig won't see much off road action besides some camping and snow covered roads.
Darren-
Thanks for your input. You say that I should have no problem fitting the 285s with a 2.5" lift so why did the guys at the shop say that they wouldn't fit? They said there was too much rub. And your suggestion to get new tires? How would that make a difference? I've got BFG All-Terrains right now.
On another note, I saw a 1" differential drop for 3rd gen 4Runners. Should I utilize this if I'm going to add 1 inch of lift to my existing suspension lift? And you're correct in assuming that this rig won't see much off road action besides some camping and snow covered roads.
