More Power Antenna Trouble

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I have a power antenna and I've broken like 3 or 4 of them. So I got a new one, and put it in, turned the radio off to suck it down. And after then antenna is all the way down it makes the worst noise ever. Like the gear that is on the teeth keeps going even though the antenna is already down. Sometimes the antenna won't even go down the whole way and it still makes the noise. It will also occasionally make it when the antenna is going up.
 
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I have a power antenna and I've broken like 3 or 4 of them. So I got a new one, and put it in, turned the radio off to suck it down. And after then antenna is all the way down it makes the worst noise ever. Like the gear that is on the teeth keeps going even though the antenna is already down. Sometimes the antenna won't even go down the whole way and it still makes the noise. It will also occasionally make it when the antenna is going up.

Taco Whip Mod.
 
I have a power antenna and I've broken like 3 or 4 of them. So I got a new one, and put it in, turned the radio off to suck it down. And after then antenna is all the way down it makes the worst noise ever. Like the gear that is on the teeth keeps going even though the antenna is already down. Sometimes the antenna won't even go down the whole way and it still makes the noise. It will also occasionally make it when the antenna is going up.

I assume you are only replacing the mast. I would guess you either have:
a damaged gear on the motor
broken piece of an old mast in the motor
debris in the motor

You're probably going to need to pull the motor actually out and open up the gear portion and at least clean it out.
 
Ya, if I can't get it fixed by this weekend, I'll go by the Stealership and pick up Part 86300-35090.

The wheel well panel is held on by carpenter clips? Is that normal? All the other ones are bolts.
 
Ya, if I can't get it fixed by this weekend, I'll go by the Stealership and pick up Part 86300-35090.

The wheel well panel is held on by carpenter clips? Is that normal? All the other ones are bolts.

There are just a whole bunch of plastic clips on holding the inner fender on. It's quite easy from the outside, and if you're good with interior panels then it's pretty easy there too.
 
There are just a whole bunch of plastic clips on holding the inner fender on. It's quite easy from the outside, and if you're good with interior panels then it's pretty easy there too.

Are the exterior clips anything special incase I break a few?

Can I just go to Home Depot and buy some more?
 
DO NOT PULL THE LITTLE GOLD MOTOR OUT! That thing is a pita to put back in because there are these little springs inside that fall out and these little metal cubes connected to wire that need to be in contact with the motor and it took my brother and I like 40 minutes just putting the motor back in. Just pull off the black cap and get into the gears inside. There is probably broken off teeth in there. That is what I found in mine yesterday
 
So I took it all apart today, and opened up the gears only to find two strands of plastic threading from old antennas. Put it all together again, and it still makes the noise.

TACOMA WHIP MOD YOU ARE IN MY FUTURE!
 
I just wish I lived anywhere that had a decent enough radio station to worry about it. I think the only time I used mine in the last 3 years is when we were in Las Vegas. Otherwise I forget I even have it, maybe I'll try it out this morning and make sure it still works!
 
X2...Mine has been unplugged for the last 6 years. I like being able to manually lower or raise as needed

Mine was unplugged, until the garage door caught the antenna, brought the door down on the hood and 90* angled my antenna. :(




I know have bad radio reception.
 
Are the exterior clips anything special incase I break a few?

Can I just go to Home Depot and buy some more?

Probably hit up the dealership - they are a pain in the ass for sure, you have to use a flat head screwdriver (small!) and push opposing sides of the square clip in to release them... I broke / fought with 5 of them, destroying them in the process. But then again, I just wanted the damn things off (had a couple extra from a previous mod).
 
I don't know why more people don't just DISCONNECT?

After considering both options... Replace antenna mast or Taco Whip mod.

I chose option 3...:thumb3:

Benefits:
1) It has no cost.
2) Total repair time was less than 10 minutes.
3) Leave in DOWN position for Wheelin' or if you never use radio.
4) Leave in UP position if you use your radio.

I disconnected mine a few weeks ago. I have not found any disadvantages that apply to my lifestyle.
 
Did you see this new thread? He goes over some antenna issues in great detail.

*** Bootowns Thread ***
----> http://www.toyota-4runner.org/3rd-gen-t4rs/105547-bootowns-thread.html#post950122


For those too lazy to click :)


Antenna Mast Replacement & Antenna Motor Cleaning

Problem – Your antenna mast will not move or will not extend/retract fully
Solution – Remove antenna mast, clean out any mast parts stuck in the motor, install new mast.

Parts
Antenna Mast – 86337-35111
Fender Liner Clips – 90189-06028 (quantity depends upon how many you break)

Tools & Supplies
Antenna wrench or hammer and flathead screwdriver
Anti-seize


Remove Antenna Mast
1) Remove antenna nut. If you don’t have an antenna wrench use a hammer and flathead screwdriver.
IMG_39112_25.jpg~original


2) Extend the antenna mast and get ready to catch it. You may want to lay a towel or two on the hood and fender if you’re doing this by yourself in case you don’t grab it in time.
Factory stereo – The motor runs longer using this method. While holding down the AM and FM buttons, turn the ignition key from “Lock” to “ACC.” The antenna mast will now pop out.
Aftermarket stereo – Turn on the radio and the mast will pop out.

Remove Antenna Motor
There are two ways to remove the antenna motor: the easy way and the total pita way. If you have a SR5 or live in a rust-free state you will probably get to do this the easy way. If you have a live in road salt hell you may have to go the pita route.

Easy Way
I can’t remember if I removed the front passenger tire, turned the front wheels all the way to the right, or had the wheels straight.

Remove the fender liner clips. Some of them you can access from inside the engine bay and use a pliers or flathead screwdriver to push the clips out from the backside. I just broke off the one or two closer to the antenna motor that were not accessible through the engine bay. Here is what they look like:
IMG_3919_25.jpg~original


Pull the fender liner back and disconnect the electrical connector. This picture is with the fender completely removed but shows where the connector is.
http://i1107.photobucket.com/albums/h400/boootown/Antenna Mast and Motor Replacement/IMG_3928_25.jpg

Remove the single 10mm? antenna motor mounting bolt and slide the slide the motor out
IMG_3925_33.jpg~original


Hard Way
I have a Limited and live in salt hell. My antenna motor mounting bolt was rusted on solid and the mounting bracket was bending a lot trying to turn the bolt. So I went the pita route: remove grille, bumper, corner light, filler, running board, and fender.
Remove Grille
Remove Front Bumper
Remove Running Board
Remove Fender

Take a wire wheel to the exposed threads of the mounting bolt and clean them up. Now that you have the fender off, you can easily hold the mounting bracket in place and remove the mounting bolt.

Clean Out Antenna Motor
You’re going to want to wear some disposable gloves for this part.
Remove the screws circled below and pull the cap off.
IMG_3934_25.jpg~original


As you can see I had a good chunk of plastic teeth still in there.
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IMG_3936_25.jpg~original


Screw the cap back on. I had one screw that wouldn’t go back in and then noticed the nut for it came loose. Line that back up with the hole.
IMG_3937_25.jpg~original


Replace the antenna motor. I put some anti-sieze on the mounting bracket bolt threads so that I hopefully won’t have to take the pita route when the next mast breaks. Replace the fender, running board, corner light, filler, bumper, and grille.

Install New Antenna Mast

If you have a factory stereo installed you may have to hold down the AM and FM buttons, turn the ignition key from “Lock” to “ACC.” Let the motor finish running. Leave the key in the "ACC" position.

Take the new antenna and insert the plastic teeth about 11 ¾” into the hole with the teeth facing the front of the vehicle (the FSM says to have the teeth facing the rear of the vehicle).
While applying some downward force to the mast teeth, turn the key back to “Lock.” The new mast should fully retract.
Screw the antenna nut back on.
 
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