Most Lift for the Money

[MNT4R]

Hey guys. Wanted to give my 2005 sport t4r a more aggressive look. I started by putting on a bull bar and some PIAA 540's, which I love. Now I want to bigger with the tires and more aggressive with the stance of the vehicle. I don't do much offroading, mostly weekend warrior type stuff (camping, pheasant hunting, etc), but I live in MN and we do get some pretty snowy conditions. I wanted to put a 3" lift on the truck that allowed clearance for larger tires, but I don't want to drop several grand on a truck that already has 85,000mi on it. Any suggestions? Blocks with springs versus economic full suspension?

 

[4-Ripcord]

85k miles is nothing dude.. that's like 2k miles to a jeep, haha.

Get Daystar spacers or something, if you use the search on the top of the page you will find plenty of info on those:keyboard:. cheap and effective.

 

[Casper421]

I would check out a spacer lift from Cornfed, Toytec, or Daystar. Or research converting to FJ springs for a small lift and better ride.

 

[zstampe]

Check out my lift or ome, I'm about the same as an ome lift height wise but have less then 400 in it....

 

[THEROK]

i didn't follow my own rules about going big or staying home.

i opted to go with the bilstein 5100 setup on stock springs up front with OMEs in the rear for a 2.5/1.5" lift.

i was never happy with it and it took me almost a year to realize how much i didn't likeit.

i finally opted to go with the equivalent of the toytec ultimate lift (3"/2"). i'm finally happy.

i can only recommend to my t4r friends the setup i'm truly happy with so go toytec ultimate and don't look back. it drives awesome too.

 

[Maz]

You probably have two primary choice areas, plus a sort of "wildcard" option:

1. Some type of spacer lift, which is quite economical but does little other than set your car up higher. Some people would even argue it puts limitations on your suspension system

2. A coilover system such as the Ultimate Toytec whoch THEROK is recommeding, which is an entirely new suspension

3. In addition you could choose the wildcard, which would be a lifting shock such as the Bilstein 5100's combined with new springs such as off the FJ cruiser

Many people will tell you they feel the spacer thing ends up being unsatisfactory and just for looks, with little function. A coilover system can be a great option but is the most expensive. (By the way if you're thinking about this check out the Overland Warehouse 2.0 sustem which is only a little more than the Toytec, but a complete system specifically valved for the T4R). The 5100's with the FJ springs is by far the cheapest way to go and actually change out your suspension. More than a couple people think at least non adjustable Bilsteins and the better FJ springs is the way the T4R should have come from the factory.

 

[MNT4R]

Thanks for the suggestions. I will probably just bank some money for a few months and go all out.

 

[THEROK]

You probably have two primary choice areas, plus a sort of "wildcard" option:

1. Some type of spacer lift, which is quite economical but does little other than set your car up higher. Some people would even argue it puts limitations on your suspension system

2. A coilover system such as the Ultimate Toytec whoch THEROK is recommeding, which is an entirely new suspension

3. In addition you could choose the wildcard, which would be a lifting shock such as the Bilstein 5100's combined with new springs such as off the FJ cruiser

Many people will tell you they feel the spacer thing ends up being unsatisfactory and just for looks, with little function. A coilover system can be a great option but is the most expensive. (By the way if you're thinking about this check out the Overland Warehouse 2.0 sustem which is only a little more than the Toytec, but a complete system specifically valved for the T4R). The 5100's with the FJ springs is by far the cheapest way to go and actually change out your suspension. More than a couple people think at least non adjustable Bilsteins and the better FJ springs is the way the T4R should have come from the factory.

i didn't know about the overland kit. i wonder how much softer it rides than the toytec setup with the eibach springs up front. my truck has much less dive and lean after i dumped the stock springs.

 

[chaz]

the radflo 2.0 COs come with eibach springs unless OW has radflo change them. its the shocks that make em ride so nice. OW does have the 2.5 coils made for them. Radflo Suspension Technology - Coil Springs Radflo Suspension Technology - Coil Spring Applications

 

[J.A.]

Thanks for the suggestions. I will probably just bank some money for a few months and go all out.

Bank the money and put it towards other mods on your vehicle. according to your needs as seen in the original post, the best bang for the buck would be the DS spacer lift for under $200 DIY. You can read more and see the how to at my site.

 

[THEROK]

the radflo 2.0 COs come with eibach springs unless OW has radflo change them. its the shocks that make em ride so nice. OW does have the 2.5 coils made for them. Radflo Suspension Technology - Coil Springs Radflo Suspension Technology - Coil Spring Applications

I know Bilstein (I used them on all my sports cars - adjustable coilovers like PSS9s), but never Radflo.

 

[Colemanfu]

O m e

OME. You don't need coil overs and once you have spacers you will want the suspension to go with the lift. Save a bit more $ it will be worth it.

Wheeler's Off Road

 

[gm350reratliff]

You probably have two primary choice areas, plus a sort of "wildcard" option:

1. Some type of spacer lift, which is quite economical but does little other than set your car up higher. Some people would even argue it puts limitations on your suspension system

2. A coilover system such as the Ultimate Toytec whoch THEROK is recommeding, which is an entirely new suspension

3. In addition you could choose the wildcard, which would be a lifting shock such as the Bilstein 5100's combined with new springs such as off the FJ cruiser

Many people will tell you they feel the spacer thing ends up being unsatisfactory and just for looks, with little function. A coilover system can be a great option but is the most expensive. (By the way if you're thinking about this check out the Overland Warehouse 2.0 sustem which is only a little more than the Toytec, but a complete system specifically valved for the T4R). The 5100's with the FJ springs is by far the cheapest way to go and actually change out your suspension. More than a couple people think at least non adjustable Bilsteins and the better FJ springs is the way the T4R should have come from the factory.

Throwing in my $0.02 here. I went with the adjustable Bilstein 5100's (1.75" setting) with FJC springs up front and Bilstein 5100's with FJC springs and daystar 1.5" spacers out back. The ride is so much better. Night and day. No more bottoming out. Measured from the fender to the center of the wheel, after alignment and settling, it raised the front 2.5" and the rear 2".

I have seen a few vehicles with strut spacers encounter some issues with them. One of the issues is that the strut could bottom out before the bumpstop, causing the strut to collapse. Strut spacers could also allow the suspension to over-extend which is hard on ball joints and cv's.

 

[mikey's2010SR5]

I'll throw in a vote for doing it right and go with a full coilover. I went Overland Warehouse 2.5 kit and couldn't be happier.

:uzi::lasercannon: