Motive Products Brake Bleeder on 5th Gen

[Mick1]

Have any of ya'll used a Motive Products Brake Bleeder on a 5th Gen?

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I have used my Motive power bleeder on a Corolla, Land Rover, and a couple different mustangs. For the land rover I built an attachment to get the securing chains out further for a better seal. Similar to this picture:



But the master cylinder reservoir on the 5th gen has even more stuff around it and in the way.

 

[Mick1]

So i decided to go out to the garage and try a test fit. It looks like it could / will work, but may be a pita to get the chain around and not crush anything important in the process.

 

[Mick1]

Further out.

 

[Mick1]

Stoopid ipad, upside down pics.....

 

[fourwd1]

I have a Motive bleeder and it's worked well on many vehicles, but I would think twice about using it on the MC's with integrated ABS that Toyota uses nowadays.

 

[96r50]

I have a Power Bleeder but haven't bothered trying to use it yet. I found this on Tacoma World and while I haven't tried it yet on my 4Runner it seems it should work. Fifth generation 4Runners have the same style master cylinder with a pump and accumulator instead of a vacuum booster so the process should be applicable. I've got Speed Bleeders on order to simplify the job and I'll report back with the results when I have time to try it out.

 

[SOOTRD]

I recently modded my pro with big brakes. Make sure you have the engine on when you bleed the brake fluid. I tried doing it the old school way with engine off, the brake pedal was spongy and had the abs light come on. Took me a little bit until I figured out I needed to bleed it with the engine running.

 

[wfo9]

The 4runner is a strange bleed operation... You have to have the ignition on and let the pump move the fluid.

I was in a rush when I did mine, so I just stumbled around until I figured it out. There is probably a post here somewhere that explains it in detail. It definitely does not work like any other car I have owned. With the ignition off, no fluid would move even when pumping the pedal. Might have had something to do with me replacing the brake lines and having no pressure in the lines, but it was odd to say the least.

 

[Lester Lugnut]

Was searching thru threads for brake maint. info and came across this thread.

People here asking about using a Motive Brake Bleeder on a 5th Gen 4 Runner.

Click on the following URL - scroll to the bottom to "Toyota and Lexus" - then read the comments.

Application Guide

 

[swva]

It's been a while since anyone has posted on this thread but I wanted to see if I could get a follow up from [MENTION=73024]Mick1[/MENTION] and [MENTION=105875]96r50[/MENTION] to see if your speed bleeders worked well on the 5th gen 4Runner.
I was thinking of ordering the speedi-bleed to use on mine. I'm approaching 3 years on the 4Runner (in March) and I'm almost at 60,000 miles now. I want to try and do this soon.
Did the speed bleeders work well? Can I use them without having the ignition on? I had read somewhere on here, I think, that the ignition had to be on when bleeding the brakes. I was wondering if using a small amount of air pressure through the speed bleeders would bypass this and not need the pump running. Thanks in advance.

 

[96r50]

Strangely enough, I just got around to bleeding the brakes last week! The process went smoothly except when I snapped off one of the front bleeders (totally my fault). The Speed Bleeders made it a very simple one man job. Follow the instructions in the FSM (below) and you shouldn't have any trouble.

 

[1jzgte]

mine went into the garbage can... sick of the leaky ass device if you don't tighten it down equally on both chains

 

[1jzgte]

I recently modded my pro with big brakes. Make sure you have the engine on when you bleed the brake fluid. I tried doing it the old school way with engine off, the brake pedal was spongy and had the abs light come on. Took me a little bit until I figured out I needed to bleed it with the engine running.

wait.. there's no mention of "ENGINE ON".. The toyota brake bleed instructions say ignition ON only. Can we get some clarification. I feel like ENGINE ON will cause too much pressure to bleed safely. Can you guys clarify?

 

[swva]

Strangely enough, I just got around to bleeding the brakes last week! The process went smoothly except when I snapped off one of the front bleeders (totally my fault). The Speed Bleeders made it a very simple one man job. Follow the instructions in the FSM (below) and you shouldn't have any trouble.

Thanks for the quick reply and for the link to the brake bleeding procedure in the FSM. I read through a lot of posts this morning and just now realized you were talking about the bleeder replacement plugs. I was interested in the air pressure speed bleeder like the motive. I was thinking about purchasing one from this company. https://www.speedibleed.com/
I was just wondering if I would still have to turn the ignition on or if this pressurized bleeder would still force the fluid out without the pump operating. I'm not too familiar with replacing brake fluid.
From what I can gather no brake pedal pressing is necessary.