Moving to LA - what do I need to know?

As for bringing a vehicle, it seems like you won't encounter any special challenges as long as you stick to the roads and don't modify the engine.


Tell me again how many hectacres of OHV-friendly desert and mountain trail access you have in Florida? :) You can get away a lot of mods here (but there aren't many worth your time on these, anyway). You have beaches, you say? Pismo Beach is still legal too, thanks to Friends of Oceano Dunes – Access for All Let's not forget about CORVA - Home either.
 
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If you want to get ripped off with taxes it might not be too late to move to Nebraska dude, it's booming here nothing but out of staters coming in. Essentially zero crime in the suburbs it's like living in the 1950s. You can get anywhere in the city in 20 mins, extremely family oriented and great people. Utterly boring however unless you have a strong passion for going to church, watching sports and abusing prescription dugs and alcohol.

I just had to read through that a few times. Beside the prescription drugs, this seems like my dream place. You taking fed-up canadians?

I'd be wiling to work until I can't walk anymore to live in a place like that, and of course the 4runner would go on for the next half a century.
 
Live close enough to your job so you have to drive. It will slowly kill you. I lived in OC and worked down town and Metrolink was the only way to go.
 
mtbtim,

Let me get this right... so you saw some pictures of homeless camps in LA and now you assume LA is a shithole? that can be said about any city. Choose any city you are planning to move to and there will be some shitty pictures does that it's a shithole city? NO
 
Some folks are obviously afraid the resale on their overpriced property will take a hit if word gets out about CA, lol.....
 
I just had to read through that a few times. Beside the prescription drugs, this seems like my dream place. You taking fed-up canadians?

I'd be wiling to work until I can't walk anymore to live in a place like that, and of course the 4runner would go on for the next half a century.

Might have been a bit harsh with the drugs and alcohol comment but they hand out beer at Halloween in my sub. Be warned... to be accepted as a true Husker there may or may not be an tribal 'ordeal ritual' involving shots of 99 gas station liqor and other imbibements.

Yes you're welcome, until you're not. Then you're passively aggressively still welcome. I've actually written poetry about Nebraska... which tells you how weird it is. Weirdly unweird.
 
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mtbtim,

Let me get this right... so you saw some pictures of homeless camps in LA and now you assume LA is a shithole? that can be said about any city. Choose any city you are planning to move to and there will be some shitty pictures does that it's a shithole city? NO

California for the last couple years has experienced a net loss of people. For the first time in the history of the state, more people are leaving than coming. That says something. The liberal policies are ruining this beautiful state. There's no plan to deal with the homeless in big cities like Los Angeles and San Francisco. It might not bother you, but it's bothering a whole host of people that are fed up and want out. I don't know if i'm leaving the state, but I'm certainly moving to an area with less homelessness, crime and filth.

The thing is, it doesn't need to be this way. It's the way the state is managed. It's the decriminalization of drug crimes, being drunk in public, and enabling this life style by letting them set up camps wherever the hell they want. Back in the 70's when I was growing up, the cops had the authority to kick people out. People high on drugs were sent to jail and did time. It's basically a free for all and we all suffer as a society.

So, don't get your feelings too hurt about what I said about LA. I'm not a fan of where I live in San Jose either. I use to like visiting San Francisco, but I have no desire anymore. I don't want to see the filth or take a chance of one of my truck windows getting smashed. The property crimes in S.F. are off the charts bad. My neighbor across the street just got their catalytic converter stolen. I'm not going to be surprised if I'm next.

Anyway, you have a nice life Frank.
 
Some folks are obviously afraid the resale on their overpriced property will take a hit if word gets out about CA, lol.....

Perfect comment. My little ranch home in San Jose is supposedly worth $1.5 million. What a joke. I would never brag about my neighborhood or my house, but somehow it's worth a crazy amount of money. I'm not complaining. I just don't understand it. California isn't the state it use to be. It's been on a steady decline for a long time.
 
The thing is, it doesn't need to be this way. It's the way the state is managed. It's the decriminalization of drug crimes, being drunk in public, and enabling this life style by letting them set up camps wherever the hell they want. Back in the 70's when I was growing up, the cops had the authority to kick people out. People high on drugs were sent to jail and did time. It's basically a free for all and we all suffer as a society.

I'd argue the thing exacerbating the problem is the social safety net that funds and perpetuates it...and you're right: it doesn't have to be that way and it is 100% the way the state is managed.
 
Perfect comment. My little ranch home in San Jose is supposedly worth $1.5 million. What a joke. I would never brag about my neighborhood or my house, but somehow it's worth a crazy amount of money. I'm not complaining. I just don't understand it. California isn't the state it use to be. It's been on a steady decline for a long time.

And CA's real estate issues have driven the entire country's as they export their ridiculously high prices to other states as their ex-pats emigrate paying "over asking price" to their new areas.

Homes are a consumer durable good, not an investment....or at least they shouldn't be and we shouldn't want them to be. Millennials and Gen Zers are finding out just how bad a public policy infinitely rising property values are.
 
Big City living ain't what it used to be nearly everywhere in the USA. Until the Sackler's opiate addicts die off and Fentanyl is curtailed (thanks, China - via Mexico), we are going to have major urban quality of life issues. California has an immense diversity of terrain away from the cities. I'm looking at properties along the 395 corridor for access to Mammoth, Death Valley, Mojave and Nevada. Hard to leave the weather here on the coast, though. It's pretty great NEVER being hot, but I'm leaving permanent City Livin and headed for Green (or somewhat Tan) Acres for my golden years of boozin and grillin and wheelin.
Probably going to keep the super cheap rent-controlled flat in the City for the kids. They're born and raised here in the fog. One of my kids graduated from UC Davis yesterday - Happy Father's Day to all the Pops out there. A little braggy, I know, but I'm proud of the Covid Kids who persevered.
 
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Big congrats to your offspring! It's not easy getting INTO UC Davis, let alone graduate. Now the hard part begins: Getting a job commensurate (big word for the day!) with all that effort. I hope he does as well as he deserves.

I was born and raised in a little town called Woodside there in the the lower peninsula. Just towards the mountains from Redwood City. When I was there, it was a quiet little town, filled with redwood trees. Now, the trees are mostly gone, and Woodside is filled with rich folk's mansions. My father bought the house I grew up in for $80 K, and sold it a while after my sister and I had moved out on our own, for a mere $2.4 MILLION! Unbelievable!

Anywho, I wish you the very best, and enjoy the rest of your Toyota time :D
Pat☺
 
Big congrats to your offspring! It's not easy getting INTO UC Davis, let alone graduate. Now the hard part begins: Getting a job commensurate (big word for the day!) with all that effort. I hope he does as well as he deserves.

I was born and raised in a little town called Woodside there in the the lower peninsula. Just towards the mountains from Redwood City. When I was there, it was a quiet little town, filled with redwood trees. Now, the trees are mostly gone, and Woodside is filled with rich folk's mansions. My father bought the house I grew up in for $80 K, and sold it a while after my sister and I had moved out on our own, for a mere $2.4 MILLION! Unbelievable!

Anywho, I wish you the very best, and enjoy the rest of your Toyota time :D
Pat☺

Thanks - it was my daughter who just graduated - my boy is a sophomore there as well (weird I know). I grab a sandwich at Robert's Market in Woodside when I'm on 280 quite a bit! Must've been an incredible place to grow up.
 
California for the last couple years has experienced a net loss of people. For the first time in the history of the state, more people are leaving than coming. That says something. The liberal policies are ruining this beautiful state. There's no plan to deal with the homeless in big cities like Los Angeles and San Francisco. It might not bother you, but it's bothering a whole host of people that are fed up and want out. I don't know if i'm leaving the state, but I'm certainly moving to an area with less homelessness, crime and filth.

The thing is, it doesn't need to be this way. It's the way the state is managed. It's the decriminalization of drug crimes, being drunk in public, and enabling this life style by letting them set up camps wherever the hell they want. Back in the 70's when I was growing up, the cops had the authority to kick people out. People high on drugs were sent to jail and did time. It's basically a free for all and we all suffer as a society.

So, don't get your feelings too hurt about what I said about LA. I'm not a fan of where I live in San Jose either. I use to like visiting San Francisco, but I have no desire anymore. I don't want to see the filth or take a chance of one of my truck windows getting smashed. The property crimes in S.F. are off the charts bad. My neighbor across the street just got their catalytic converter stolen. I'm not going to be surprised if I'm next.

Anyway, you have a nice life Frank.

Man, it's the whole west coast. I was up in Seattle in the used-to-be nice downtown area near Pike's Place. Half the shops were boarded up around and people were drunk and high all over the place. Apparently Portland is so bad that major retailers are leaving the city citing too much crime and their employees are put at risk just by doing their job.

Washington state home prices are down -7% year over year while the rest of the country is going up. It's only a matter of time until other larger coast cities like Portland, San Francisco and then eventually all the way down to LA and the surrounding cities start to drop too. Salesforce tower, the largest skyscraper and office building in SF, is at 20% occupancy. 80% of businesses have already moved out. Crazy to think that in perhaps 10 more years SF will be in decline and downtown not like it is today.

These cities won't collapse in some sort of apocalyptical fashion, they will just be tourist traps and full of memories of 'the good 'ol days' with no plan on bringing them back. On the flipside, Sacramento is growing faster that it ever has before. Come bring your $1.5m of equity and buy a nice home in Folsom in cash and enjoy world class hiking, skiiing and off-roading right on your doorstep!
 
Come bring your $1.5m of equity and buy a nice home in Folsom in cash and enjoy world class hiking, skiiing and off-roading right on your doorstep!
My Dad grew up in the Bay Area (Woodside, then Livermore), Mom was born there (Berkeley) but grew up in Portland. I'm a SoCal kid, but the rest of my family (Mom, Dad, Sister) are just up the hill from Folsom (El Dorado Hills) and have been since 1994...

There's still a lot of 'regular' places in California once you get out of the Bay Area, Los Angeles area and the San Diego area.

My wife and I live in Pasadena because it is the closest we could get to LA without it feeling like and being LA.

-Charlie
 
My Dad grew up in the Bay Area (Woodside, then Livermore), Mom was born there (Berkeley) but grew up in Portland. I'm a SoCal kid, but the rest of my family (Mom, Dad, Sister) are just up the hill from Folsom (El Dorado Hills) and have been since 1994...

There's still a lot of 'regular' places in California once you get out of the Bay Area, Los Angeles area and the San Diego area.

My wife and I live in Pasadena because it is the closest we could get to LA without it feeling like and being LA.

-Charlie

I've been to Pasadena, it's a nice place and enjoyed the short time there. I also grew up in Livermore and enjoyed the old fashioned vibe of the town. It's family and the fantastic natural beauty of this place that keeps me here. I was just digging up minerals a few weeks back in a serpentine rock occurrence, stopped to pan for gold in the stream, and walked through hills sprinkled with sunflowers, poppies and other wildflowers. So unique.
 
I lived in Pasadena and So Pas for 35yrs....all good times
The Hankies
Hangin out and laughing w/ Terry Kilgore (Ed's friend and Roth's 1st guitarist) building guitar amps, repairing guitar amps for Pasadena Guitars, working for JPL on dozens of projects...
Our band played in old town at the E-Bar and dozens of Art Center parties and the Loch Ness...back when old town was a fukkin ghetto
Yea, **** I'm old

I don't even recognize it anymore when I take trips back to JPL for work..but Inland Empire is WAY worse.

Wish I had met Charlie (phattyduck) before we moved to Riverside Redneck Hell...but I made my wife be my wrench bud...she's a trooper

I only have fond memories of Pasadena

Now I spend my time fixing and wheeling my pig boat 3rd Gen in AZ/Utah/Colo
 
Man, it's the whole west coast. I was up in Seattle in the used-to-be nice downtown area near Pike's Place. Half the shops were boarded up around and people were drunk and high all over the place. Apparently Portland is so bad that major retailers are leaving the city citing too much crime and their employees are put at risk just by doing their job.

Washington state home prices are down -7% year over year while the rest of the country is going up. It's only a matter of time until other larger coast cities like Portland, San Francisco and then eventually all the way down to LA and the surrounding cities start to drop too. Salesforce tower, the largest skyscraper and office building in SF, is at 20% occupancy. 80% of businesses have already moved out. Crazy to think that in perhaps 10 more years SF will be in decline and downtown not like it is today.

These cities won't collapse in some sort of apocalyptical fashion, they will just be tourist traps and full of memories of 'the good 'ol days' with no plan on bringing them back. On the flipside, Sacramento is growing faster that it ever has before. Come bring your $1.5m of equity and buy a nice home in Folsom in cash and enjoy world class hiking, skiiing and off-roading right on your doorstep!

Yeah, I heard the sole REI store in Portland is closing down because of theft. What a said state of affairs. Law and order needs to reestablished and honest hard working people should get at least equal consideration to the bums who offer nothing back to society. Things are so upside down right now. These liberal progressive cities are shooting themselves in the foot, and it sure seems they don't give a shit. Their tax base is going down the toilet and they keep operating the same way. You'd think they'd wake up when they see business after business closing down and relocating somewhere else where they actually are valued and protected. West Coast states are going to continue declining until the voter base pulls their heads out of their asses and realizes the morons they keep electing aren't governing like they should. The derelicts in society should not be put ahead of the hard working and honest people in society who give back to the society they live in. Even if it's just paying your taxes, you're doing a hell of a lot more than the drug addict shooting heroin on the street corner, and dropping their drawers and taking a big steaming dump on the public sidewalk. I really detest that our beautiful state of California is turning into a complete and utter shit hole.
 

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