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Full 2.0" suspension kit
Price: $1,390.00

Full 2.0" suspension kit


Kumho Road Venture AT KL78
285/70/17
Set of 4: $672.00

Kumho Road Venture AT KL78


Xtreme Alloy Series 7098 - Flat Black
$577.96

Xtreme Alloy Series 7098 - Flat Black-RH1




should i go with the 2.5 overland suspension? i plan on doing some so cal offroading, trips to mammoth, big bear and tahoe in the winter months.

the tires are the cheaper of the bunch. is it worth it to go with these or should i just bite the bullet and spend an extra $250 on some BFG's or goodyears?
 
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Yes...Go with the 2.5" kit. I really cannot comment on those Kumho tires since I've never owned them but Me personally, I would go with the BFG's.
 
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TheSweenyFiles said:
the tires are the cheaper of the bunch. is it worth it to go with these or should i just bite the bullet and spend an extra $250 on some BFG's or goodyears?
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BFG AT/KO's are the best AT tire on the market and have been for over 10yrs. Excellent pavement mannerisms, great in ran and good off road on mild terrain......They are tried and true. Nitto makes a nice "looking" tire but I can't speak to it's performance on/off-road, the tread pattern is nice visually though.

If looks are what you're going for, I'd say Nitto, if performance is what you're going for, I'd say BFG AT's.
 
I second going with the OW 2.5" kit. Why pay 40k on a truck and skimp on the suspension? ;) I have the OW 2.5" kit installed and I'm loving the ride with them.

I just had Goodyear Duratrac 285/70/17 installed and so far they have done very well with everything I've thrown at them. I'm waiting for some snow so I can test their winter weather handling. The positive comments on their snow/wet/ice handling is why I went with them over BFG ATs. I've had BFG ATs in the past and they are definitely good tires.
 
Clemsonfan15 said:
Close to $4,000 on Christmas gifts for yourself. Must be nice. :p
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haha its more of a christmas/new years/whenever i get all the money gift

im either gonna go with the 2.5 OW lift or the icon stage one... then the goodyears or bfg's

i dont need to pimp out my car with black rims. i like the stock rims and their color better
 
TheSweenyFiles said:
thanks for the quick responses! iDRiVaTrd i saw in some of your pictures that you have the wheel spacers. going to the 285's with the 2.5 lift should i get those also?


the 2.5 overland is $1825

the icon stage 1 is $1600

any difference in quality and ride?

2010 + 4Runner Suspension System - Stage 1 - ICON Vehicle Dynamics
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The Icon Stage 1 rear shocks are basically cheap Edelbrock mono-tube shocks. If you go with ICON just buy the Front Coils, rear coils, and get the 2.5" Rear Remote Reservoir shocks.

Otherwise go with the OW 2.5" kit, you will not be disappointed!!

I went with the Wheel spacers mostly for looks and stability. With the lift, I wanted the tires further out to give it a nice wide stance. If you go with 285/70R17's on stock wheels, I am not sure if your tires will clear the upper Control Arms. Hopefully someone can comment if they will fit. To my Knowledge they will rub, but again, I don't have proof of that. I was running 265/70R17 tires with the stock wheels and spacers. With my current Pro Comp wheels I am not running wheel spacers, they are sitting in my garage.
 
I went through Andries for my setup. I just used their basic email for communication at first. Info@ ...

You can tell them what you plan on using your 4runner for and they will valve the shocks to accommodate.
 
Or you could just get springs since the Trail already has a pretty decent setup from the factory and save yourself the 1k and use it for some other cool stuff like sliders or a rack? I really wanted the 2.5 Overland kit but couldn't justify the extra money on it. Especially since the wife is going to let me get a 1st gen 4Runner (has to be 84 or 85) to lift and do most of the wheeling in. Oh as for 285's fitting on stock rims and not hitting uca hawkdog21 has 285 bfgs on trail rims without wheel spacers they don't hit his uca. As for tires I don't like the BFG AT's but I like their MT's I would bite the bullet and get some nice tires the duratracs seemed to liked by all who have them. Disclamer this is just my opinion take it for whats its worth good luck with your decision and be sure to post pics.

(Edit) I think pimping your truck out with dark rims would look good especially on a mag gray I might have a bias opinion on that lol
 
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i like your thinking there hamiltonj2w1, on my hour long drive home from work i was thinking the same about just keeping the trail suspension somewhat stockish. throwing down 1800$ right now may not be the best idea.

with hawkdog21's rig is his suspension stock except for the 285's?

if i were to get those black procomp rims and some 285's will it fit the trail without a lift or will it require some modification?

but your right the darker rims do look pretty good on the mag grey!

thanks for everyones input!
 
Me and hawkdog21 have the same suspension setup OME 844 coils w/toytec top plate spacers up front and toytec superflex coils in the rear with stock shocks and struts. I highly doubt the 285s will fit without a lift I actually have some rubbing even with the lift lol. However it rides pretty good the way it is right now probably not as nice as the Overland kit but whatever. The money I saved from not doing a full coilover kit I used towards sliders and a few other odds and ends
 
I'm not trying to start anything here, I just want to explain why I went my route. When I had my Tacoma, I basically started with a cheap lift. Bilstein Adjustable front shocks and rear shocks. Yes it was cheap, allowed me to afford some other goodies, but then later I had to increase the height up front to account for the coil settling. Had to pay to get the coil plate moved up a notch to give me more lift. Also added add-a-leafs, then later got All Pro leafs, then later needed more weight carrying capability, bought OME leaf packs. Then the front was too low to match the rear, then decided to bite the bullet and get Icon Front Remote Resi Ext. Travel Coilovers, Camburg Upper arms and rear 2.5" Remote Resi Shocks.

I was able to make some money back on all my parts that I took off but in the end IMO, I spent too much time and money piecing everything together. I learned from that experience and that's why this time around I went straight to a complete kit designed for the 4Runner which includes Front Coilovers, which I can adjust the height at any time by using the supplied adjustment wrench, Rear lift coils and larger diameter rear shocks that are valved to match the Coil spring rate. The complete setup provides far superior dampening and handling over the stock OEM Setup.

Then again I do take my truck out to the desert occasionally and it does get HOT and the suspension does get a work out, so my stock shocks and coils in all reality probably wouldn't have lasted all that long.

That's my story and reasoning behind getting a Complete Coilover kit.
 
I wouldn't be surprised at all if the stock shocks weren't the cheapest (read crappiest) ones Toyota could get away with just like the stock tires are.
 
iDRiVaT4R said:
I'm not trying to start anything here, I just want to explain why I went my route. When I had my Tacoma, I basically started with a cheap lift. Bilstein Adjustable front shocks and rear shocks. Yes it was cheap, allowed me to afford some other goodies, but then later I had to increase the height up front to account for the coil settling. Had to pay to get the coil plate moved up a notch to give me more lift. Also added add-a-leafs, then later got All Pro leafs, then later needed more weight carrying capability, bought OME leaf packs. Then the front was too low to match the rear, then decided to bite the bullet and get Icon Front Remote Resi Ext. Travel Coilovers, Camburg Upper arms and rear 2.5" Remote Resi Shocks.

I was able to make some money back on all my parts that I took off but in the end IMO, I spent too much time and money piecing everything together. I learned from that experience and that's why this time around I went straight to a complete kit designed for the 4Runner which includes Front Coilovers, which I can adjust the height at any time by using the supplied adjustment wrench, Rear lift coils and larger diameter rear shocks that are valved to match the Coil spring rate. The complete setup provides far superior dampening and handling over the stock OEM Setup.

Then again I do take my truck out to the desert occasionally and it does get HOT and the suspension does get a work out, so my stock shocks and coils in all reality probably wouldn't have lasted all that long.

That's my story and reasoning behind getting a Complete Coilover kit.
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I totally agree the coilover kit is the way to go but for the wheeling and trail runs I do out here the coilovers are probably alittle overkill for my personal needs. I can see needing remote res shocks for desert runs.

I also think you are right Toyota probably went with the cheapest shocks they could get away with just like the crappy tires lol. I am going to eventually get new struts and rear shocks but for now these will do.

Not really sure what kind of wheeling TheSweenyFiles plans on doing I was merely suggesting another alternative way to go with the lift.
 
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