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Snookster

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Alright, I am adding some rims to my runner. Below Is a picture of my runner with the rims i'm thinking about adding (the previous owner had them on, and took them off before i purchased the vehicle). Do you think these wheels look good on the runner? I am a 2wd so i am going for the street look, i suppose. Also, whats your take on black rims? do you think they would look good on my runner? I most likely wont go bigger than 20" wheels, but who knows. Just need some opinions, THANKS!!!
 

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I like the look of those rims.

As for black rims. To me they are harder to see and give a "solid black wheel" look that I don't like. Reminds me too much of a generic steel wheel rim.
 
I thought about going with 20"s at one point. I even considered those exact TRD/Enkei Deep Six wheels. They are very nice wheels.

After considering the following, I changed my mind and went with lightweight Volks instead.

1. Performance: Each 20x8" Enkei wheel weighs roughly 36 lbs. That is an increase of 14 lbs over ONE stock wheel, (22 lbs). Total increase in rotational weight from the four wheels is 4 x 14 = 56 lbs. Each pound of unsprung, (rotational), weight is approximately equal to 8 lbs of sprung weight. 8 x 56 = 448 lbs. In other words, 20" wheels have roughly the same EFFECT on performance as throwing 448 lbs of crap in the trunk. Let me ask you this... How does your truck perform when you take three of your 150 lb friends around town? I haven't even calculated the increase from the tires. You can do that yourself. Avg weight of 275/45/20 = 40 lbs as compared with 265/70/16 avg weight of 37 lbs. Source? Check tirerack and search specs for these tire sizes. Main point: Larger diameter rims will have a negative effect on your acceleration, braking, and handling. This doesn't even take into consideration the center of mass and the effect on moment of inertia. Picture swinging a ball at the end of a one foot string in full rotations. Extend the string to two feet. Which one of these is easier to rotate at the same rpm? Can you accelerate them to the same degree?

2. Considering the above, heavier, larger diameter wheels decrease your mpg's. Where do you think the price of oil is heading?

3. It increases stress on wheel bearings.

4. It increases wear on brake pads and rotors. Not sure how your rotors hold up, but traditionally the 3rd gen 4runner rotors are notorious for warping.

Conclusion: Basically you take the overweight, underpowered 4runner that already gets crap for gas mileage and you compound the underlying problems. Is all of this worth it for the improvement in looks - which is purely based on opinion? Some folks understand these complications and are fortunate enoough to have the cash and/or resources available to maintain their vehicles properly. If that is you my friend... all the more power to you!

Just my two cents worth.
 
Nice posting ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^


I'm not a big fan of huge rims but those look nice and aren't overly huge and actually havea bit of rubber around the rim which is a good thing when it comes to rough roads.
 
QSVeilside said:
I thought about going with 20"s at one point. I even considered those exact TRD/Enkei Deep Six wheels. They are very nice wheels.

After considering the following, I changed my mind and went with lightweight Volks instead.

1. Performance: Each 20x8" Enkei wheel weighs roughly 36 lbs. That is an increase of 14 lbs over ONE stock wheel, (22 lbs). Total increase in rotational weight from the four wheels is 4 x 14 = 56 lbs. Each pound of unsprung, (rotational), weight is approximately equal to 8 lbs of sprung weight. 8 x 56 = 448 lbs. In other words, 20" wheels have roughly the same EFFECT on performance as throwing 448 lbs of crap in the trunk. Let me ask you this... How does your truck perform when you take three of your 150 lb friends around town? I haven't even calculated the increase from the tires. You can do that yourself. Avg weight of 275/45/20 = 40 lbs as compared with 265/70/16 avg weight of 37 lbs. Source? Check tirerack and search specs for these tire sizes. Main point: Larger diameter rims will have a negative effect on your acceleration, braking, and handling. This doesn't even take into consideration the center of mass and the effect on moment of inertia. Picture swinging a ball at the end of a one foot string in full rotations. Extend the string to two feet. Which one of these is easier to rotate at the same rpm? Can you accelerate them to the same degree?

2. Considering the above, heavier, larger diameter wheels decrease your mpg's. Where do you think the price of oil is heading?

3. It increases stress on wheel bearings.

4. It increases wear on brake pads and rotors. Not sure how your rotors hold up, but traditionally the 3rd gen 4runner rotors are notorious for warping.

Conclusion: Basically you take the overweight, underpowered 4runner that already gets crap for gas mileage and you compound the underlying problems. Is all of this worth it for the improvement in looks - which is purely based on opinion? Some folks understand these complications and are fortunate enoough to have the cash and/or resources available to maintain their vehicles properly. If that is you my friend... all the more power to you!

Just my two cents worth.

very nice post, and this is why I love the internet. Someone rational. So what I'm hearing is save my money for my up-coming GHEENOE!!!! and keep the rims I have on... (pictured below)

what would you think about going black on the rims i have on now? or maybe gun metal.
 

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Fo_SheeZy said:
Man those rims looks clean as hell! I would definitely get them!

well thank you. its good to know there are fellow "bling" lovers out there. I'm trying to just buy the rims, the tires are 295's and are way too big.
 
Snookster said:
well thank you. its good to know there are fellow "bling" lovers out there. I'm trying to just buy the rims, the tires are 295's and are way too big.

Don't get me wrong Snookster. I mentioned it in my first post, and I'll say it again. The wheels are very nice. :bigok:

Please tell me you're going with the TRD/Enkei's with the brushed stainless look and not the chromed rims in the last post.

Fo_Sheezy definitely has one of the most blinged out 4runners I've ever seen. It is nicely done.

FS- Earlier I suggested that you sand the hood scoop grille down. Did you ever get around to doing that? It would really match the front end of your truck. Next week I'll have better pics of my truck. You can check it out at that time.
 
IMO these look a lot better than the chrome rims off the white taco. They blend well with the overall styling of your truck .... but I'd also consider the wise words from QSVeilside.
 

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