New front lift options/opinions
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98_4runnerSR5
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Why not Bilsteins? I know they're a little more but worth the extra IMO
Yeah, that definitely seems like a nice option. Won't get that extra .5" of lift, but I dont know how much that really matters.
Sell me yours you have now and go with all newsounds like a good plan to me
Haha, feel free to pm me an offer
fightman80
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If I were you, I would save up for the coilovers, this way you can adjust to whatever lift height you want. I personally like the rake! I also used a small top plate spacer in the front though.....
Yeah, I probably wont do that, as I don't think I can justify putting 600 into the suspension....although it would be sweet. I also dont really need the adjustability. Either 2.5" or 3" is fine for me, and either new set-up can get me there less expensively than a coilover setup
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steezemcqueen
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if you want just a little more height, i would just do the top plate spacer like fightman did. that or the coilovers.
Why's that steeze? If I can afford to have an all spring lift, then shouldn't I do that? Won't I get the most of out of my lift not having any spacers?
And I agree the coilovers would be a nice option, just a bit $$$$
fightman80
New member
Spacers
The Top plate spacer is really not a bad option, as it doesn't really affect the spring at all. It just gives your mounting point a .5" drop, which in turn gives you that much more lift. If you were adding this to your coil pack, then it would make your ride a bit stiffer, which would be less desireable. The problem with attempting another set of coils is, you may not get any more lift with them, and if you go with the stiffer OME's in the front, your ride will just be crappy anyway.
I can personally vouch for the Tundra Strut assemblies, I once had the Toytec Spacer to give me the 3" of lift in the front, and that combined with my crappy stock 12 year old struts, was just horrid for ride comfort. Since adding the Tundra Struts, the truck rides so much better, and it was the most cost efficient lift I can get.
My 2 cents, again, he he he, go back to Toytec, get a .5" top plate spacer, and add it to your lift. You will have to disassemble the coils again, in order to install the longer studs for the top plate, but it will give you a little more height.
However, this setup will give you some rake:
As far as I know, and others please correct me if I'm wrong, the only way to ensure that you will get a more level stance is to buy the coilovers. This way, you can adjust them to the height you require. The only problem is, depending on how high the rear is, trying to bring the front up just as high, may cause some bad CV axle angles, and in turn cause breakage.
If you don't like the rake, can't afford the coilovers or are affraid of CV axle angles, you may want to just get shorter springs in the back.........
My 890 coils gave me a pretty level lift:
I hope this helps!
The Top plate spacer is really not a bad option, as it doesn't really affect the spring at all. It just gives your mounting point a .5" drop, which in turn gives you that much more lift. If you were adding this to your coil pack, then it would make your ride a bit stiffer, which would be less desireable. The problem with attempting another set of coils is, you may not get any more lift with them, and if you go with the stiffer OME's in the front, your ride will just be crappy anyway.
I can personally vouch for the Tundra Strut assemblies, I once had the Toytec Spacer to give me the 3" of lift in the front, and that combined with my crappy stock 12 year old struts, was just horrid for ride comfort. Since adding the Tundra Struts, the truck rides so much better, and it was the most cost efficient lift I can get.
My 2 cents, again, he he he, go back to Toytec, get a .5" top plate spacer, and add it to your lift. You will have to disassemble the coils again, in order to install the longer studs for the top plate, but it will give you a little more height.
However, this setup will give you some rake:
As far as I know, and others please correct me if I'm wrong, the only way to ensure that you will get a more level stance is to buy the coilovers. This way, you can adjust them to the height you require. The only problem is, depending on how high the rear is, trying to bring the front up just as high, may cause some bad CV axle angles, and in turn cause breakage.
If you don't like the rake, can't afford the coilovers or are affraid of CV axle angles, you may want to just get shorter springs in the back.........
My 890 coils gave me a pretty level lift:
I hope this helps!
I didn't know that at all. I thought every spacer you got affected the ride (made it stiffer, limited travel etc). I didn't know that was just for spacers in the coil pack. So the .5" would not affect ride, but the 3/8" would, because they get assembled in the coil pack?
It would be hard to convince me that I wouldn't get more lift if i went with a new spring (either the OME 883's or Tundra/Eibach's) as they are listed as a 3" lift spring and with 3/8" spacers, most people get 2.5" out of the tundra's.
steezemcqueen
Moderator
what fightman said. the top plate spacers do not affect the springs or ride.
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just dropping in, voted in the poll, not reading anything here.....
just wanted to tell ya that coil overs HAVE TO BE rebuilt....... if I were sh1tp1ss rich and had money to waste on that type of stuff than sure id have some super fancy CO's...... but for someone who doesnt jump their truck or have sponsors it still fails to make sense to me. this does not apply to LTR or baja racin folk.
just wanted to tell ya that coil overs HAVE TO BE rebuilt....... if I were sh1tp1ss rich and had money to waste on that type of stuff than sure id have some super fancy CO's...... but for someone who doesnt jump their truck or have sponsors it still fails to make sense to me. this does not apply to LTR or baja racin folk.
trailmix
New member
Well coilovers typically ride better then a conventional strut and spring, you dont have to junk the struts when they get worn out, and theyre fully adjustable (rebound/dampening, stiffness, and lift height). It cost about $150 to have them rebuilt, it cost $250 or so to replace struts so if youre gonna have your truck long enough to wear them out then in the long run it may be more cost effective to spend the extra cash on co's at the beginning.
My truck has 140k on it now, and assuming I can get 60k out of my brand new struts and shocks, at 200k I might be looking for a different ride. I'd rather spend 160 for new springs, and with the extra 340 bucks put it towards an Outdoor Logic or Bajarack roof rack.
brian2sun
Elite Member
My $.02...
I absolutely love my OME 883s and comfort shocks and mine get used a lot. I highly recommend them. The 883s ride a bit stiff at 1st, but after a few months they break in and really ride nice. If you're going to get a heavy front bumper the 883s are great, but I would go with 881s and top plate spacers if you keep your stock bumper.
I have tested my OMEs against SAW 2.0 coilovers back to back and mine rides noticeably smoother. I've also tested them against other people's Toytec COs and I can't tell a difference in ride quality even at speed. It's just not worth the extra hundreds of dollars to have adjustability IMO because most people adjust them once when they have their setup figured out and then leave them alone after that. It'll save you lots of money if you choose the right OME coils for the setup you want to have (bumper/winch/skids/etc..) and then you won't need adjustability because you'll already have the right suspension for the weight you're carrying.
I absolutely love my OME 883s and comfort shocks and mine get used a lot. I highly recommend them. The 883s ride a bit stiff at 1st, but after a few months they break in and really ride nice. If you're going to get a heavy front bumper the 883s are great, but I would go with 881s and top plate spacers if you keep your stock bumper.
I have tested my OMEs against SAW 2.0 coilovers back to back and mine rides noticeably smoother. I've also tested them against other people's Toytec COs and I can't tell a difference in ride quality even at speed. It's just not worth the extra hundreds of dollars to have adjustability IMO because most people adjust them once when they have their setup figured out and then leave them alone after that. It'll save you lots of money if you choose the right OME coils for the setup you want to have (bumper/winch/skids/etc..) and then you won't need adjustability because you'll already have the right suspension for the weight you're carrying.
Thanks Brian, thats exactly how I feel. I feel like i would never adjust coilovers enough to warrant the extra dough. As far as bumpers go, I would one day like to get an aftermarket bumper, but for the near future, I'll be on my stocker. I really don't mind my 891s unloaded, ride how a truck should IMO, so a rough ride for "X" amount of time shouldn't bother me too much...
