New Respect for the Hybrid

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Jeffrey_VB said:
I got about 42mpg over 45 miles in the 24hrs I had it, most of that was city driving.
I think hybrids are supposed to get more miles per gallon in the city, aren't they? How much is that environmental protection package costing you?

We have about 4 priuses in the area i live in. More than you would think when we have about 80% pick-up trucks and SUVs.
 
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How much is that environmental protection package costing you?

If I remember right, that, undercoating, and key replacement was right at $900.

What does that paint protection do?

Supposedly protects the paint from fading and loss of gloss from exposure to sun, acid rain, tree sap, and bird droppings.
 
Yeah, the hybrids are pretty cool, but if you really factor out the actual benefits, it's not really all that advantageous. Plus, currently, I don't think the battery technology is up to par, which is also a big environmental concern when it comes time to dispose of the batteries.
 
I think most new cars have pushbutton start these days,hybrid or non-hybrid. It's getting harder to find new vehicles with the old style ignition.
 
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Jeffrey_VB said:
If I remember right, that, undercoating, and key replacement was right at $900.

Before you do anymore stuff from the dealer, you need to ask this forum. I know that it's a done deal already, but what the dealer just did amounts to them robbing you of your money. :( The stuff does not do much of anything...sorry.
 
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Personally, when it comes to paint protection and the undercarriage I am from the "Old School".

Give the 4Runner a GOOD, HAND washing along with periodic waxing.
In the winter I will use a wand car wash, if I really must, to get the salt and chemicals off.
I do try to avoid the car wash especially if they "recycle" the water.

Keep after paint chips with touch up paint.

When the undercarriage starts to rust (which many 4Runners seem to do) I use POR15 on it.

Anyway, to each their own I suppose.
 
Hell....I am someone fairly high up in a Toyota store...I have no problem chiming in here.

We DO NOT sell a paint protectant or Undercoating.

First off, the paint protectant and fabric sealant they sell is put on by a minimum wage lot boy....the paint protectant being a wax you can buy at the local NAPA.

And undercoating.....Toyota puts undercoating on all cars from the factory. In the owners manual it actually suggests against it for that reason. With an extra layer of undercoating...more than likely you are going to have it flake off quickly after it is put on.

If you haven't done it already.....get your money back. These dealerships give us all a bad name....when we are trying to do it right.
 
barc111 said:
Hell....I am someone fairly high up in a Toyota store...I have no problem chiming in here.

We DO NOT sell a paint protectant or Undercoating.

First off, the paint protectant and fabric sealant they sell is put on by a minimum wage lot boy....the paint protectant being a wax you can buy at the local NAPA.

And undercoating.....Toyota puts undercoating on all cars from the factory. In the owners manual it actually suggests against it for that reason. With an extra layer of undercoating...more than likely you are going to have it flake off quickly after it is put on.

If you haven't done it already.....get your money back. These dealerships give us all a bad name....when we are trying to do it right.

Are you able to report these type of dealerships to Toyota so that something will be done about things like this? I know Lexus is very strict, as far as these things go, and will take action. Wondering if Toyota is the same way.
 
re: POR-15

Anyone familiar with it for FLOOR portection in a garage (yes, parking on it). It does not seem to require acid wash or major striping. $$$
 
I rented a Prius once. Acceleration was good, and I had the same feelings about how it operated. I drove 100 highway miles and got about 37mpg. I think I would save the extra 7000-8000 dollars and buy a Corolla or Civic. They won't be efficient enough to justify it until they come out with a plug in series hybrid.
 
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BTLFED said:
Wow that stuff seems pretty interesting, especialy since I own a 73 Datsun 510 lol. I'll have to read more about it and see if it can be painted after it dries, etc. The trunk on my 510 is pretty rusty, but no rot thank goodness.

Yes, it can be painted after it dries. It is VERY important that one follows the instructions as to preparation for and application of the product.
Over the years I have seen occassional complaints about POR15's performance.
In 99.9% of these cases the person doing the complaining did not follow the directions for it's use.
Also note on their web site that POR15 does require a top coat because UV rays can damage it.

Also be advised that it is EXTEMELY IMPORTANT to follow ALL the safety precautions when using this product with regard to proper ventiliation and protective gear.

BTW, my brother used this product on his 12 year old Nissan Sentra. He had a rust problem in his trunk that he used the POR15 on and it worked very well. I used it on a vehicle I own over 8 years ago and it has held up well. These are just two of the many reasons why I used it on the undercarriage of my 4Runner.
 
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charlier180 said:
Yes, it can be painted after it dries. It is VERY important that one follows the instructions as to preparation for and application of the product.
Over the years I have seen occassional complaints about POR15's performance.
In 99.9% of these cases the person doing the complaining did not follow the directions for it's use.
Also note on their web site that POR15 does require a top coat because UV rays can damage it.

Also be advised that it is EXTEMELY IMPORTANT to follow ALL the safety precautions when using this product with regard to proper ventiliation and protective gear.

BTW, my brother used this product on his 12 year old Nissan Sentra. He had a rust problem in his trunk that he used the POR15 on and it worked very well. I used it on a vehicle I own over 8 years ago and it has held up well. These are just two of the many reasons why I used it on the undercarriage of my 4Runner.

That is fantastic. Thanks for the info! :bigok:
 

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