No AS-1 line on windshield

[bloodninja]

I have a 2012 4Runner, bought used Toyota Certified. The windshield doesn't have an AS-1 line on it at all. Does this sound correct?

I'm planning on putting a windshield glare strip on the top, but I was kind of expecting to see the AS-1 line on there. I don't know if it's the OEM windshield or not. Does anyone else not have it marked on theirs?

 

[Diver Deuce]

I have a 2012 4Runner, bought used Toyota Certified. The windshield doesn't have an AS-1 line on it at all. Does this sound correct?

I'm planning on putting a windshield glare strip on the top, but I was kind of expecting to see the AS-1 line on there. I don't know if it's the OEM windshield or not. Does anyone else not have it marked on theirs?

Sounds like your truck had its windshield replaced. My original one had the lines.

 

[bloodninja]

Sounds like your truck had its windshield replaced. My origin had the lines.

The other thing that peaks my curiosity is that my windshield doesn't have a glare strip of any kind. It's entirely clear, except for the dot matrix around the rear view mirror.

I bet you're right.. Replacement. From my limited time on the board, I've gathered that's not necessarily a bad thing given the OEM windshield's apparent issues with cracking and whatever

 

[bloodninja]

Would someone with an original windshield on a 5th gen please measure how many inches down the AS-1 line is from the top of the windshield? I'm getting it tinted tomorrow morning.

It would help me greatly. The alternative is to go creeping through parking lots, looking for 4Runners to measure, then running away from their owners when they come out and see me measuring it.

lol

 

[RedSled]

Would someone with an original windshield on a 5th gen please measure how many inches down the AS-1 line is from the top of the windshield? I'm getting it tinted tomorrow morning.

It would help me greatly. The alternative is to go creeping through parking lots, looking for 4Runners to measure, then running away from their owners when they come out and see me measuring it.

lol

I think they are all pretty close to the same dimension, but any who, on my 3rd gen. it is 4 1/4"

 

[Saker]

This is strange, mine is currently tinted with 5 according to the state law no lower than the AS-1 line.
I cannot see the line, but I could have sworn it was there prior to having it tinted. It is definitely on my LTC 6" from the top.

Anyway, the tinter placed a 6" band across the top.
I measured on the outside and it is dark down to 8" and I can see the headliner protrudes down the inside glass 2".

It sounds like your windshield has been replaced since it has no tinted band at all.

 

[LandCruiser]

Is it a Toyota?

The two I've had replaced were both Pilkington.

 

[bloodninja]

Is it a Toyota?

The two I've had replaced were both Pilkington.

It says Toyota on it.. Nippon Safety AS-1.
Not sure what the 2 yellow dots are supposed to indicate.

http://i.imgur.com/7VXAhea
http://imgur.com/mo5juPH

 

[RedSled]

Ok, my first dimension was from the outside from the rubber to the AS-1 line. On the inside from the edge of the headliner to the line is 3 1/2" Edit does not really matter because mine is a 3rd gen. Sorry.

 

[Diver Deuce]

The other thing that peaks my curiosity is that my windshield doesn't have a glare strip of any kind. It's entirely clear, except for the dot matrix around the rear view mirror.

I bet you're right.. Replacement. From my limited time on the board, I've gathered that's not necessarily a bad thing given the OEM windshield's apparent issues with cracking and whatever

If memory serves me correctly, the original has the blueish strip on top. I'm on windshield #3... lots of rocks when I was in Arizona.

 

[meltdown]

I looked at mine earlier. Unless it got changed between port and the dealer, it's original. There's no AS-1 line on it. If you are tall, I wouldn't go more than a couple of inches. I had a six inch strip for about 2 hrs before I pulled it off. The tint line was right in my sight line and I hated it. The glare from the scoop is far worse than the sun coming through the top.

 

[Bevo]

Damn, you win the award for biggest pics posted today!

 

[bloodninja]

I looked at mine earlier. Unless it got changed between port and the dealer, it's original. There's no AS-1 line on it. If you are tall, I wouldn't go more than a couple of inches. I had a six inch strip for about 2 hrs before I pulled it off. The tint line was right in my sight line and I hated it. The glare from the scoop is far worse than the sun coming through the top.

Thanks. I appreciate it! I am relatively tall, so based off your advice I figure I'll just go with 3" or so from the top.

Damn, you win the award for biggest pics posted today!

oops.. lol... I posted them from Tapatalk... didn't realize it didn't resize them..

 

[Omar RVA]

Here's what I found after some digging.

Facts: I've got OEM Toyota glass in my 2010 Limited, with the heating element (how it's survived this long I can't answer). Here are some pics. You will notice, no A-S1 line, no factory tinted strip either, but it does have an A-S1 marking in the same spot as OP's.





Without getting into specifics, the A-S1 marking pretty much shows that the glass meets certain quality standards (here we're interested in "luminous transmittance"). The Federal Motor Vehicle Safety Standards (see: FMVSS 205) requires windshields to comply with ANSI Z26.1 - which is where our A-S1 designation comes from. When you see an A-S1 line on the windshield, the manufacturer is pretty much saying that from this line down (which ever way the arrow points actually), the glass is intended to comply with A-S1 standards. In our case, the entire windshield is certified as A-S1. So if your code requires nothing below the A-S1 line, then no tint for you. Most states fall back on the FMVSS 205 as their baseline for tint.

Opinions: You live in PA. Read your laws as they apply to you and only the members on this forum who garage their trucks in PA. A quick search revealed that your state's statutes do not specify percentages, but your state's code does. See section 175.263 specifically. Here you'll notice that FMVSS 205 pops up again. Essentially, you cannot tint your windshield in a way that doesn't allow a minimum of 70% light transmittance. Since you don't have an A-S1 line, and there is no factory tint along the top, you probably wouldn't be able to argue any windshield tint in court (not a lawyer, which is why this is in the opinion section). You can however apply for a medical exception per PennDOT. That said, a few of my police friends here in VA don't pull over for tint strips but they clean house on full windshield and front side window tints in general (but our code is much more strict).

OA

Sources here as I was too lazy to cite in my explanation:
https://www.federalregister.gov/articles/2012/06/21/2012-14996/federal-motor-vehicle-safety-standards-glazing-materials
(On your own for ANSI Z28 - work pays for that but I can't access it from home)
Pennsylvania Code
Title 75 - PA General Assembly
http://www.dmv.state.pa.us/pdotforms/fact_sheets/fs-sun.pdf

 

[bloodninja]

Thanks!