Not Another Annoying Tire Thread (Part Deux)

[MikeinCincy]

Well gentlemen, you guys gave me a lot of great insight for my first tire thread and I want you to know that I greatly appreciate that. However, I have changed things up. I originally wanted a tire that came in my stock size 265/65/17. I have decided that if need be, I can upsize to 265/70/17 which changes the whole ballgame. Once again, I want an A/T tire with good on-road mannerisms while displaying above par off-road traction and control. I live in Cincinnati, so I will see some pretty decent snow storms throughout the winter. I will not be off-roading all that much, but plan on visiting some trails over the summer (nothing too hardcore). I originally thought I was going to go with the Revos, but am having second thoughts. I am throwing some new tire possibilities into the mix here. The new additions are: Goodyear Wrangler Silent Armor (265/70/17) and Toyo Open Country A/t (265/65/17 or 265/70/17). I would love to consider the BFG T/A KO tire, but it just seems too aggressive for my needs and I want to avoid any rubbing issues. Thanks again guys for all your help and opinions.

-Mike

(This is my last tire thread I promise :yesyes

 

[storm4]

I just got Pirelli scorpion ATRs on my surf a few days ago and i am super satisfied. great grip, amazing cornering (you can also slide them if you are brutal - which can be fun), very good in standing water (no hydroplaning), excellend in mud, but i can't comment on snow as i have yet to take it up north yet.

i'd suggest you stick to stock shoe sizes as it seems you don't need the extra "height" or the headaches that come with fitting larger tyres.

seem there is only one clear choice.

 

[MikeinCincy]

i'd suggest you stick to stock shoe sizes as it seems you don't need the extra "height" or the headaches that come with fitting larger tyres.

seem there is only one clear choice.

I assume you are talking about rubbing issues, speedo offset, and less mpg? The rubbing shouldn't be an issue as long as I don't go with the BFGs (correct me if I'm wrong guys). And I don'tr eally mind the drop in gas mileage and the speedo offset. I have heard that the Pirellis flat-spot very badly. Have you had any experiences with this problem?

 

[Thai]

Goodyear SilentArmor or LTX AT-2.

 

[MikeinCincy]

Goodyear SilentArmor or LTX AT-2.

Thanks Thai. The Goodyear Wrangler SilentArmor looks like a great tire and I have read that it does really well off-road, especially in snow (which is important to me). I would have to go up a size from 265/65/17 to 265/70/17. Do you think this will cause any rubbing issues? Also, I just did some research on the Michelin LTX AT-2. The tread pattern doesn't look aggressive at all for an A/T tire. Have you heard how this tire does off road and in the snow? Thanks a lot Thai.

 

[RonMAIDEN]

I'm very happy with my Nittos and won't hesitate to get another set.

Great on road in dry or wet and good control on ice and snow and handles the intermediate trails I run. I drive hard on the street on these tires and they'll still seee 45k miles before my next set will be due. They see off road about 12 times a year and have handled the abuse quite well.

 

[alaskaman]

Well, mes amis since we are speaking French.....

Tires are like women or Tires are like men if you be a girl. Traction is paramount, one simply must have grip to hold onto the surface be it dirt or be it asphalt, mud or snow. Tires must have a bottom. Do they have that extra performance that goes over the edge past the reviews and stays ON the surface and rocks your world forward? Tires must have communication. Do the tires tell you when they are going to "let go". Finally, tires have to play for the long haul. a great tire that only gives you 20K miles is a waste of time.......and another finally, a GREAT tire has to be able to blow your (mind) and surprise you with it's performance..........and should make you say........"sht babay, how the hel did you do that!"..............

my vote? Scorpions. VOTE ITALIAN

 

[kimboy]

Get it right. It's BF Goodrich T/A (not A/T) KO's.

Now that you know how to spell them, go buy em!

 

[kimboy]

BFG's

 

[MikeinCincy]

Get it right. It's BF Goodrich T/A (not A/T) KO's.

Now that you know how to spell them, go buy em!

They are great tires, no doubt about that. But I want to avoid any rubbing issues.

 

[MAC4Runner]

I'm very happy with my Nittos and won't hesitate to get another set.

Great on road in dry or wet and good control on ice and snow and handles the intermediate trails I run. I drive hard on the street on these tires and they'll still seee 45k miles before my next set will be due. They see off road about 12 times a year and have handled the abuse quite well.

x2

Excellent bang for the buck tire.........

 

[4by4th]

x2

Excellent bang for the buck tire.........

ditto on the Nitto's, except for the tread vibraition I feel in the steering wheel when going straight at highway speed. Do you get that too or is it just mine? It's been there since new and I rotate every 6000+/- miles.

I haven't heard of rubbing problems with BFG A/T's, did I miss something?

 

[Border411]

Have to go with the Revos. I have had them on my truck for 55,000 miles thus far and expect to get about another 15,000 before they need to be replaced (probably sometime next fall). Absolutely the best tire I have ever used. Handles off roading great (those of you who saw my at Rausch Creek can attest to that) and I bougth them from Costco so they came with a road hazard warranty/flat repair/balance and rotations for life all for free! You cant beat that!

I run them at about 36psi cold, and get consistantly 19.5+ miles per gallon, and I am not easy on my truck. I am also a police officer, so I need to make sure I get into work no matter what the conditions are, and they have never let me down.

I will for sure be buying them again. I never expect to put anything else on my rig.

By the way, I am running the 265/70-17's. No rubbing issues whats so ever.

 

[MikeinCincy]

Border411, how do they Revos do in the snow? I was thinking about getting the Revos earlier but heard they don't do so hot in the white stuff.

 

[LTH]

Yokohama

Yokohama Geolanders.

LTH

 

[ImOnAPlain51]

I've had good luck with my Firestone Destinations...they have great traction, ride, look, and I got them for a pretty reasonable price. The Tirerack review had them as one of their top tires when I bought my set.

Keep in mind when buying any tire... check around at different tire stores. They can and will give you better prices than their competitor. Heck, we have 3 Discount Tire stores in Lubbock and they will try to beat out each other with lower prices.

 

[Falls]

BFG is having balance problems right now on the AT's , many tires being returned to mfg for evaluation . They will balance at first but seem to got of balance . I'm sure this is a specific lot run , and does not seem to cause any issues except vibration. NOTE: this info is happening during the last 6mo. so it's not every tire or every lot. If I can get more specific info on lot #'s or mfg. date I'll keep you posted . I can't go into anymore detail at this point.

I also was told that Nitto is climbing down BFG AT's back as far as off road / on road performance. Price and durability.

Just a side bar note , I'm not AT ALL saying they are bad and have always been my favorite AT tire's. I've only had 1 bad set in 1999 that I was running on an Explorer that seem to get very stiff less pliable and at 40k miles would know your fillings loose. They rode absolutely horrible . I called them and they took them back and set me up with a new set , then I sold the truck.

 

[AmbideXtrous]

I just took off my Pirelli Scorpion ATRs. I found them mostly useless in the mud. On the wet/dry road and in snow I found them to do just fine. They have excellent road manners. But for the mud, I had trouble in off camber situations gaining any traction. I could come to a stop on the side of a hill in not terribly deep mud and find myself sliding downhill into the brush.

And they do flat-spot real bad.

 

[Thai]

I just took off my Pirelli Scorpion ATRs. I found them mostly useless in the mud. On the wet/dry road and in snow I found them to do just fine. They have excellent road manners. But for the mud, I had trouble in off camber situations gaining any traction. I could come to a stop on the side of a hill in not terribly deep mud and find myself sliding downhill into the brush.

And they do flat-spot real bad.

Well, to be fair, none of the ATs are really good in mud, including BFG AT KO. For mud, you gotta go with MTs. Of course, MTs do come with it's downfalls on-road. So, there is no perfect tire out there that does everything well.

 

[AmbideXtrous]

Well, to be fair, none of the ATs are really good in snow, including BFG AT KO. For mud, you gotta go with MTs. Of course, MTs do come with it's downfalls on-road. So, there is no perfect tire out there that does everything well.

True enough. Someone else mentioned how good they thought the Pirellis were in mud and I just had to disagree.