85straight
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Sorry for not clarifyin, small as in a 22. Budget is also small haha, around 400.
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RunninInGA
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Browning Buckmark, Ruger 22/45, and Mark III all in that range as far as .22 goes. Perhaps used, but well within reason. That said, I wouldn't try to defend my home with any of those options assuming I had a choice in the matter.
Walther PK380.. Let's discuss your opinions of it and your experiences with that caliber.
I was about to pull the trigger on one today but wanted some opinions on this pistol. I have never owned nor shot a Walther. I love the feel of it and I obviously love the size too. This may be a CCW for the wife since it will fit her well and it will also have little to no recoil.
I was about to pull the trigger on one today but wanted some opinions on this pistol. I have never owned nor shot a Walther. I love the feel of it and I obviously love the size too. This may be a CCW for the wife since it will fit her well and it will also have little to no recoil.
RunninInGA
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I consistently ccw a PPS in 9mm. A .40 version has become available to me and I'm likely gonna buy it. Walther is good to go IMO.
.380 is an unknown to me. Have no experience with the round at all whatsoever and none with that particular pistol.
.380 is an unknown to me. Have no experience with the round at all whatsoever and none with that particular pistol.
bofa
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Hmm.. I wouldn't trust a 22 for home or the woods. I would go at least .380 or 9mm. For when it counts I prefer the biggest caliber I can get my hands on but that's not always reasonable.
Anyway, for a 22, many people like the Ruger but I have had a blast with my Walther P22. For $250 or so, you really can't beat it.
If you want something a bit more potent for defense but still compact and within budget, I'd recommend a S&W M&P Compact.
Dawg4Runner
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I have a Noveske Afghan / Vltor VIS upper on top of my Colt AR. The Afghan 14.5" barrel is one of the finest on the market. It's a stainless med. contour barrel w/polygonal rifling and shoots sub MOA groups. Go with the Afghan, you'll be glad you did.
As far as the tables, they list features for those particular brands and models but that doesn't necessarily represent the quality. Also, absent are some other high quality brands like LaRue, Wilson Combat, LWRC and POF. Something else you may want to consider in your purchase is the brand's factory support. At some point, you might have to use their customer service. Companies like Larue Tactical and Wilson Combat, to name a couple are legendary for their exceptional customer service.
The best advice I can offer is to shoot as many different models as you can. If you have friends that are gun nuts, I mean gun enthusiasts and they have a variety in there collection, ask them to let you sample a few. Another option is to go to a range that rents out handguns and go and try a few out. Here's one that I googled near you Raahauge's Shooting Enterprises - Pistol and Rifle Range. People will generally recommend what they have or what they are comfortable with but whats good for them may not be good for you. The best handgun for you is the one that you enjoy shooting, is within your price range, puts the bullet downrange where you intend it to go, fulfills your needs, is reliable and looks good to you.
Also consider accessory and aftermarket support such as holsters, lights, sights, magazines, triggers, etc… Many of us on this car forum like to accessorize or enhance the item beyond what is oem. That mindset usually transfers to guns too. As far as caliber, for recreation and defense purposes, consider staying within a common caliber such as 9mm, 40mm or 45 ACP. They're easier to find and priced within reason (not withstanding recent panic events). Again, which ever one you're most comfortable and accurate with.
I've carried various models of Glocks in 9mm, .45 ACP and .40 cal for work since 1990. Before that it was a S&W model 66 revolver and 3906 (pos boat anchor). Lets agree that Glocks aren't gonna win any beauty contests. But they're extremely reliable and every time I pulled the trigger, they went "bang." At that point, looks no longer matter. Extremely easy to field strip and also very easy to detail strip (using only a 3/32" inch punch). There's tons of aftermarket support for Glocks so no problem getting parts and accessories.
My current CCW is an H&K P2000sk (replacing a Glock 27). My absolute favorite to shoot is an Ed Brown 1911.
Having said all that, the first thing you should have on hand when bringing the new handgun home is a quality gun safe. I see from another thread that you have a little one on the way (congratulations btw!). I've seen too many incidents of accidental deaths from little ones getting there hands on firearms that the owners thought were "well hidden." Another thing is preventing it from hitting the streets if your house gets burglarized. Crooks usually find those "well hidden" guns. Also, take a firearms safety class.
Hope that helps and good luck.
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85straight
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Wow, thanks for replies guys. Very helpful in what direction i should take. I was going to buy a decent safe in the coming months as well as i would want to expand my arsenal over the next few years( prob till i die lol). So a safe was without a question in my mind. As for the handgun for now i may just go to a range and rent a few for the day, repeat for a few weekends until i make a decision. .22 is starting to sound like it may not be what im looking for, i was trying to keep the wife in mind, but she has shot a few larger calibers and handled them well. So all in all thanks for the advice, ill give ya'll an update when i come to a decision.:thanks:
darkie3495
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Dawg4Runner pretty much nailed it but I'll add my two cents. I have both a Colt LE6920 as well as as a Noveske Afghan build.
Colt is considered the "Gold standard" when it comes to Mil Spec AR's as they manufacture their Semi-Auto AR's to the same specs as the Full-Auto brethren for the Military. Remember, these are tools. As someone once said about their AR-15's - "Colt make work horses, not show ponies." You're not going to get the same fit and finish as you will get with Noveske as my 6920 has a little play between the upper and lower receiver (which doesn't affect accuracy). But it will eat anything - Steel case, reloads, brass 55gr fmj - 77gr match ammo.
I've always liked Noveske rifles but never really appreciated the workmanship and quality of their parts until I built one. Everything fits like a glove. And the barrel will speak for itself. Just be aware, running the Afghan (14.5") barrel, you will stuck with the rail it comes with as the muzzle device is welded on and will require a gunsmith to remove it unless it uses the same barrel nut. Also, there is a trade off running the stainless barrel as they tend to be heavier than a typical CHF barrel.
So like Dawg4Runner, if given the choice between the two and money wasn't a concern, I would go with the Noveske hands down. As with most new AR shooters, I recommend going with the 16" as you most likely won't notice the extra barrel length and you have the ability to swap out rails and muzzle devices on your own once you find out what you like best. But if you are sure you like the exact config of the rifle, go with the Afghan.
Good Luck!!
I gave it a day to let it soak and decided to go ahead and pick up the pk380. All I have done with it is take it apart and clean the factory junk out of it. Hopefully i can take it to the range soon any put a couple hundred rounds through it and get a good feel for this pistol.
Any other walther guys here?
Any other walther guys here?
RunninInGA
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I've got 2 PPS in 9mm and .40. I picked up the .40 this weekend.
darkie3495
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I own a PPQ M1. Easily my favorite handgun.
Holy ammo!! There really is a pot of gold at the end of the rainbow! I went to bass pro at the north end of Colorado Springs and they had a ton of ammo in almost all calipers. They have thousands of rounds in 380, 9mm, 40 & 45 calm tons of rifle ammo too. Anyone in the springs area should go there and get it while it's hot.
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bofa
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Didn't have time today... bah! I didn't know there was a Bass Pro down there. I'll have to check it out.
RunninInGA
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New shooting glasses arrived today via UPS. Excited to takem to the range soon.
What do you use? I just use cheapo clear lenses and sometimes Amber lenses depending on the weather. If I'm shooting rifle I have some prescription inserts for some Oakley lenses.
RunninInGA
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I had LASIK done 3 weeks ago and used my prescription lenses previously. Wanting to protect this investment, I scoured the web for deals and found a 50% coupon for the Rudy Project website and ordered their shooters kit last week. Comes with 5 lenses and carrying case. I am impressed with the clarity of the lenses just from wearing the yellow set around the house a couple hours today.
Send me a PM if you're interested in the code.
Jumpkix
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