ok fellow 5th gen guys need fast tire help

[Falls]

I was planning on staying with my stock size 265/70/17. I have an 2011 TE.

I narrowed it down to 3 tires .

1.Firestone Destination AT (c) rated .

2.BFG AT/KO (c) rated

3.GYSA (c)

Whats your pic /why ??

Although I do off road on fire trails and farming road ect..... I'm not a rock crawler . This is also my DD . I drive about 18k per year that is mostly city , but needs to handle deep snow for winter off roading and driving . I don't want to such the power out of the engine and loose to much milage either , but that a givin switching to a AT tire I know. I need to order these asap since we are starting with major storms coming up very soon.

Ive read reviews after reviews and find them relatively useless. Trying to find out from you all .



Should I go up to 275/70/17 . Then I would have to buy another tire for my spare location The vehicle will get lifted at some point but maybe a 2" front and 1" rear at most .

Thanks for urgent help. I want to order tires on wednesday .

Mike~

 

[SeattleMike]

Duratracs rather than SilentArmors would be my suggestion. They aren't noisy below 45mph and I was thrilled with the real world performance in a snow storm. People have complained about them in the c-rated version but I think they all failed to inflate them to the proper 44psi. I've never experienced anything negative with them whatsoever over the last 21k miles.

 

[TKO88]

Goodyear Silent Armors. I have them on my 2010 SR5 and there is no appreciable noise increase, gas mileage is the same as the Dueler HTs that came on it. I have driven on them in heavy rain, deep snow, ice, and I used to take my F150 with these tires out on a ranch in West Texas through the pastures, mud, sand, and rocks and never had any problems with traction or flats. Just my two cents.

 

[mikey's2010SR5]

I am going to second the Duratrac. I have had them off road, and in the snow and they did fantastic. Plus my car is a daily driver with about the same amount of miles/year. Granted I have only had the tires on for 2 months, but I still give them a thumbs up with no complaints.

But out of the tires you have listed I would probably give the BFG the nod. I had them back on my first truck, Ford Bronco, and they did well as a DD tire, good in the snow, and good in the dirt.

Size wise I would say go with the 275/70x17, it will fill the wheel well nicely and no need for trimming.

:driving:

 

[Snooperstyle]

My vote is 275/70/17 BFG ATKOs, but keep in mind that they only come in an E-rated tire, so they might be a little bit stiffer ride. Mine do awesome in the sand and mud, but have not had them in snow yet. Ride is pretty quiet and pretty smooth as long as you don't over inflate them...I run mine at about 38 psi, but I am keeping a very close eye on tire wear...rotating often, etc.

If you are doing a lift in the future, then perhaps you should wait and then get 285s when you do the lift? You should be able to get through one winter with the stock tires. Also, why only a 1" lift? If you are going to spend the money on a lift, make it at least be noticeable...my two cents!

 

[Snooperstyle]

I am going to second the Duratrac. I have had them off road, and in the snow and they did fantastic. Plus my car is a daily driver with about the same amount of miles/year. Granted I have only had the tires on for 2 months, but I still give them a thumbs up with no complaints.

But out of the tires you have listed I would probably give the BFG the nod. I had them back on my first truck, Ford Bronco, and they did well as a DD tire, good in the snow, and good in the dirt.

Size wise I would say go with the 275/70x17, it will fill the wheel well nicely and no need for trimming.

:driving:

I tried to find those for mine too, but could not find in a 275.

 

[Falls]

Goodyear Silent Armors. I have them on my 2010 SR5 and there is no appreciable noise increase, gas mileage is the same as the Dueler HTs that came on it. I have driven on them in heavy rain, deep snow, ice, and I used to take my F150 with these tires out on a ranch in West Texas through the pastures, mud, sand, and rocks and never had any problems with traction or flats. Just my two cents.

Thanks , do you have C rated or P metric rated ??

 

[Will733]

My preference: AT/KO's, then Duratracs, then Destinations, then SAs...

I went with the Destinations in stock size since they were by far the most affordable since I already had BS Duellers and the local firestone shop gave me full credit towards new tires so it was only $240 out the door. Would have been much more for any of the others...

Now I wish I had gone up a size, since after leveling the front, they don't stick out as far as I'd like them too. I'll probably just pop some spidertrax spacers in there soon to solve that and maybe get BFG 285's when these 265's wear out.

 

[Falls]

Thanks , I'm sure the duratrac's are great just to aggressive for a DD to me.

The BFG AT/KO'S IN 275/70/17 only come in E rated and are not rated for severe snow . So that size and load rating is out.

Plus I need a tire to fit in the spare area.

The other thing is that I can get BFG's 265/70/17 (C) rated for about $200-$300 cheaper when all is said and done.

 

[maine runner]

Falls -

I chose the Wrangler SA for the very reasons you list.

After more than a year, I am very pleased with their performance in rain, snow and on dry pavement.

They are slightly louder than OEM but you get use to it quickly.

 

[Toyko]

People have complained about them in the c-rated version but I think they all failed to inflate them to the proper 44psi. I've never experienced anything negative with them whatsoever over the last 21k miles.

44psi seems to be a little excessive on a tire that is rated at 50psi max? I think E-rated ones go up to 80psi, which would make sense.

 

[PaulB-2006 T4R]

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Falls,
Why aren't you considering the Revo's, the same tire you had on the 06 SE? I have enjoyed all my Dueler ATs for years.

 

[SeattleMike]

44psi seems to be a little excessive on a tire that is rated at 50psi max? I think E-rated ones go up to 80psi, which would make sense.

It might be. But the pressures are different for an LT tire than for a passenger tire, meaning the psi recommended for the stock P tires is too low for a c-rated Light Truck tire like the Duratracs, which was my point. I don't have access to the inflation tables, so I can't provide an exact number for anything other than my e-rated tires.

 

[JB.]

44psi seems to be a little excessive on a tire that is rated at 50psi max? I think E-rated ones go up to 80psi, which would make sense.

As long as you don't exceed the max psi, the pressures would stay the same regardless of load rating.

The max values are fairly conservative so 50psi in a C load is no problem.

 

[Falls]

OK , here is the verdict.............. I bought a set of FS Dest AT's to try out this winter . I bought the P metric version not really what I wanted but they had them in stock and gave me a good deal so I will see how they work.

PaulB , The reason i didn't go with Revos was cost at the moment and really wanted to get rid of the hiway tires asap since we are starting to get snow. . I ran 2 sets on the prev. 4R and to be totally honest i did not find them to be real good in snow or off road . They are good tires , just not for me . The reason I went with the FS AT was it still has that uni-t compound as the tires wear down they still should grip nice .

I just needed a quick temp. fix to the road tires . I have no idea how they will work for me , but I'll keep you posted as winter rolls on.

I will eventually switch them to something else in summer maybe . depends on how these work and will try to step up to a 275/70/17 once I get it leveled or lifted a bit .

I love BFG AT . I like the toughness and the look . I also think they did not do much better in snow than my Revos did and as the BFG's wore down and I had 30-40k on them the hard compound made them ride rough as hell , driving in rain was terrible , snow (especially hard packed wet snow they were horrible scary ) .

So for now I will put these to the test. Would like to go with GYSA's next time.

Mike

 

[UNC4runner]

I'm a little late to offer help, but I also went with Destination ATs and I'm very happy. Not as aggressive-looking as some, but much better-looking than the highway tires. The ride on dry and wet pavement has been fantastic.

I'm looking forward to hear how yours do in the snow. I don't get too much here (NC) but enough to be a problem and it's always a slushy mess when we do.

 

[Falls]

Yes I will do that. We are supposed to get 2 snow storms in the next 4 days so we'll see.

I went on a little trail today with about 3" of snow cover on it and was going up and down the hill back there and made it up in 2wd . I was spinning though just to see how they worked and try my diff lock , atrac , and 4lo . I was having a little issue in 2wd , then I clicked off the VSC and much better in 2wd. Not really a test just trying to get familiar with the truck and features.

 

[Falls]

I'm a little late to offer help, but I also went with Destination ATs and I'm very happy. Not as aggressive-looking as some, but much better-looking than the highway tires. The ride on dry and wet pavement has been fantastic.

I'm looking forward to hear how yours do in the snow. I don't get too much here (NC) but enough to be a problem and it's always a slushy mess when we do.

Can I ask what size you have ?? what rating P/C or E ?? Also what are you running for air pressure ?????

 

[Thai]

Falls, just a little story i read...may not apply to you.

A year or so ago, a group of G-wagen owners went off-roading with 2 FJ Cruisers in the desert somewhere (in US). Anyway, one of the FJ blew out BFG AT KO C-rated tire. Forgot if he blew out one or two. (You know how painful it is for me to write this since i am a fanboy of BFG AT KO! )The group consisted of very knowledgeable folks, one of which is Harald (4x4abc.com), who is an off-road instructor. The FJ that blew out the tire was modified and loaded. The folks there felt that the blowout was due to the BFG AT KO C-rated not being able to handle the heat and weight of the FJ.

So, i guess my point is that the 2010 TE weighs more than an FJ i think. And if you ever tow or have lots of people/gear onboard, then you may want to think again about C-rated tires. (And this is why i have always been against P-rated tires on SUVs like the 4runners.) But, if you're just gonna take it easy with the 4runner, then nevermind what i just wrote.

 

[hamiltonj2w1]

Falls, just a little story i read...may not apply to you.

A year or so ago, a group of G-wagen owners went off-roading with 2 FJ Cruisers in the desert somewhere (in US). Anyway, one of the FJ blew out BFG AT KO C-rated tire. Forgot if he blew out one or two. (You know how painful it is for me to write this since i am a fanboy of BFG AT KO! )The group consisted of very knowledgeable folks, one of which is Harald (4x4abc.com), who is an off-road instructor. The FJ that blew out the tire was modified and loaded. The folks there felt that the blowout was due to the BFG AT KO C-rated not being able to handle the heat and weight of the FJ.

So, i guess my point is that the 2010 TE weighs more than an FJ i think. And if you ever tow or have lots of people/gear onboard, then you may want to think again about C-rated tires. (And this is why i have always been against P-rated tires on SUVs like the 4runners.) But, if you're just gonna take it easy with the 4runner, then nevermind what i just wrote.

What is even worse then that is toyota insists on putting P rated tires on the tundra which is meant to tow what like 10k lbs?