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t4r4life

t4r4life

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so im trying ot get in to the air force, and my recruiter told me i have to weight 197 for 5'11. i weighted my self this morning and BAM!!!! 252, i lift all the time but doesnt matter what i do, i always gain muscle way too fast which kind of ruin the purpose trying to lose weight. and all i have in my diet is fruit, protein and tiny little carbs. if anyone whos into body building or a fitness person can help me i'll really appreciate it.
 
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t4r4life said:
so im trying ot get in to the air force, and my recruiter told me i have to weight 197 for 5'11. i weighted my self this morning and BAM!!!! 252, i lift all the time but doesnt matter what i do, i always gain muscle way too fast which kind of ruin the purpose trying to lose weight. and all i have in my diet is fruit, protein and tiny little carbs. if anyone whos into body building or a fitness person can help me i'll really appreciate it.
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I'm definitely not into body building, but I am in school for this sort of thing. You're actually trying to do the opposite, I suppose, body "debuilding", but more like reshaping. If you're 5'11" and 250 you're a big dude. Some people are just built on a thicker frame, and others are just obese.

For you to get down to 197, which is very accomplishable, you're going to have to lose some of your muscle mass as well as body fat percentage. Don't misunderstand. Losing muscle mass does NOT equal losing strength necessarily. As you probably know there is a difference in training for strength and training for fashion muscles. Look in any gym and you'll see what I mean.

So to get that direction you're going to have to life weights less, and do a LOT more aerobic activity. I'm a collegiate triathlete so I do lift, but I also do a lot of cardio and I'm 5'10' 170lb (was 180 before I started, and at 8% body fat, so it wasn't just fat I lost). I don't know if this makes a lot of sense. But if you have more questions I'd be glad to answer them.

As for your diet, fruits are good, but not the best. They still have a LOT of sugar in them, a better kind than what's in coke/soda, but still sugar. Vegetables (more colors the better), whole grains, and high quality proteins (fish, lean beef, buffalo, chicken) should be your best friends. Carbs aren't bad, you're body runs on carbs, so starving it of them just makes it work that much harder trying to get energy from what you do eat. The complex carbs from whole grains stay in a much more easily used form longer in your body than do the carbs that come from sugars which store to fats easier.

sorry if this is sort of scattered, but I'm typing this real fast before I have to go. Let me know if this helps at all.
 
5 small healthy meals a day ... no sweets avoid the carbs maybe once a week only ...Eat your dinner before 7:00 p.m.
Do lots of cardio and light weights.....
 
b.abe825 said:
I'm definitely not into body building, but I am in school for this sort of thing. You're actually trying to do the opposite, I suppose, body "debuilding", but more like reshaping. If you're 5'11" and 250 you're a big dude. Some people are just built on a thicker frame, and others are just obese.

For you to get down to 197, which is very accomplishable, you're going to have to lose some of your muscle mass as well as body fat percentage. Don't misunderstand. Losing muscle mass does NOT equal losing strength necessarily. As you probably know there is a difference in training for strength and training for fashion muscles. Look in any gym and you'll see what I mean.

So to get that direction you're going to have to life weights less, and do a LOT more aerobic activity. I'm a collegiate triathlete so I do lift, but I also do a lot of cardio and I'm 5'10' 170lb (was 180 before I started, and at 8% body fat, so it wasn't just fat I lost). I don't know if this makes a lot of sense. But if you have more questions I'd be glad to answer them.

As for your diet, fruits are good, but not the best. They still have a LOT of sugar in them, a better kind than what's in coke/soda, but still sugar. Vegetables (more colors the better), whole grains, and high quality proteins (fish, lean beef, buffalo, chicken) should be your best friends. Carbs aren't bad, you're body runs on carbs, so starving it of them just makes it work that much harder trying to get energy from what you do eat. The complex carbs from whole grains stay in a much more easily used form longer in your body than do the carbs that come from sugars which store to fats easier.

sorry if this is sort of scattered, but I'm typing this real fast before I have to go. Let me know if this helps at all.
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wow that actually makes a lot of sense. i will cut down on sugur and eat more vegetables then even tho i fing hate vegetables. thank man
 
I can understand, I was in the Marine Corps, and just like all the branches we have weight standards. But, there are guys who are very muscular or kind of fat and not within the weight range for their height. For the Marines, you can get a waiver, by performing very well on the physical fitness test, and then they also take a picture of you uniform (this is really for the guys that are just kind of fat but still in really good shape) to make sure you still look presentable.

I would imagine the other branches have something similar for the guys that don't fit the height/weight standards but can still perform whats asked of them. The Marines require you to perform well above average if you fall into this category for not fitting the weight requirements, but still, its possible get a waiver.

Ask your recruiter if something like this can be done so you can get a waiver for your weight, train hard, and do well on your fitness test and I don't see any problems for you.
 
jsmarine said:
I can understand, I was in the Marine Corps, and just like all the branches we have weight standards. But, there are guys who are very muscular or kind of fat and not within the weight range for their height. For the Marines, you can get a waiver, by performing very well on the physical fitness test, and then they also take a picture of you uniform (this is really for the guys that are just kind of fat but still in really good shape) to make sure you still look presentable.

I would imagine the other branches have something similar for the guys that don't fit the height/weight standards but can still perform whats asked of them. The Marines require you to perform well above average if you fall into this category for not fitting the weight requirements, but still, its possible get a waiver.

Ask your recruiter if something like this can be done so you can get a waiver for your weight, train hard, and do well on your fitness test and I don't see any problems for you.
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noted thank you
 
You don't have to meet the weight requirements to get in. When you fail the weight requirements you have to take a tape test to show that you're within the standards of body fat. If you're just muscular then you're okay. The army says I have to weigh 190 lbs, but I weigh 230. I am a little chubby but also a lot of muscle too... I wouldn't sweat it.
 
Height to weight charts are BS and very outdated. Like others have mentioned, ask if there is another alternative. I had guys in my company that had to be taped everytime we had a physical fitness test just because they were big, not necessarily fat. Dropping 55 lbs. is no small feat and would require a lot of time along with big lifestyle changes. The best thing would be to change your diet. Calculate your daily caloric intake and for your size, I bet it's in excess of 3500 calories. Join the Marine Corps infantry, they'll make you a machine gunner for sure :dancin:
 
004Gunner said:
Height to weight charts are BS and very outdated. Like others have mentioned, ask if there is another alternative. I had guys in my company that had to be taped everytime we had a physical fitness test just because they were big, not necessarily fat. Dropping 55 lbs. is no small feat and would require a lot of time along with big lifestyle changes. The best thing would be to change your diet. Calculate your daily caloric intake and for your size, I bet it's in excess of 3500 calories. Join the Marine Corps infantry, they'll make you a machine gunner for sure :dancin:
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I agree....I forgot that one "Counting Calories"...I did that about 4 years ago plus what I suggested in my first post and I dropped 65 pounds in aprox 8 months. The first 30 in the very first 3 months...
 
see the problem for me is that im always hungry and when im hungry i cant find anything healthy to snack on or when i do find healthry stuff to snack on i eat too much of it. must say i have very poor self control when it comes to food.
 
A healthy snack that really gonna fill u up is a thick healthy shake with fruits and yogurt in it....

I dont know if you like it but a fruit that fills u up and helps lose weight is the grapefruit and it does not have lots of sugar in it.
 
004Gunner said:
Height to weight charts are BS and very outdated. Like others have mentioned, ask if there is another alternative. I had guys in my company that had to be taped everytime we had a physical fitness test just because they were big, not necessarily fat. Dropping 55 lbs. is no small feat and would require a lot of time along with big lifestyle changes. The best thing would be to change your diet. Calculate your daily caloric intake and for your size, I bet it's in excess of 3500 calories. Join the Marine Corps infantry, they'll make you a machine gunner for sure :dancin:
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dont worry the Army's is way out of date as well. I'm 5'11 and a solid 195....the army says i'm only allowed to weigh 170. So I get taped every time we do a weigh in. The bad thing is......3 weeks ago i was 1% over my max allowable weight...so off to the special pops pt program....weigh in a week and a half later, i've lost 6% and 7 lbs.....so hows that for being screwy.
 
keep it up man, the effort you put in now will pay off in future and makes me proud that someone out there is willing to work that hard to be part of our services. Keep on keep'n on!!!!! :driving:
 
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