ome891 and spacers or lc coils

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RunningRick

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well i did not get the amount of lift from the ome rear coils so i am pondering getting the rear spacers from toytec or getting the LC coils i want to be able to carry the extra weight but i also wan good articulation
 
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well i like that i will be able to have all my gear in the rruck for when we go wheelin and camping and still not have any sag with the 891s. i would like to have the most articulation i can get to be able to get up and over things i need to i am planing on moab in september and there are quite alot of trail here in az that i would like to run that the articulation would help out on
 
You can't have your cake and eat it too unfortunately. My 891s will hold a crap load of weight with very minimal sagging, but they aren't near as flexy as LCs. LCs flex awesomely, but get short real fast with a few hundred lbs in the back. My 891s do flex enough to rest on the bump stops, but it takes a lot more than the LCs would.

It sounds like you want flex more than weight handling so this is the way I see it for you... Get the LCs and the nice ride that comes with them. When you need to fill up the truck with stuff, they will sag - but only to about the height that the 891s start at anyways (since the LCs sit 1"+ higher).

I personally like my 891s, but I actaully have a rake with mine, which most on here seem to not have (I think it's because I have 883s in the front).
 
yea i think im going to switch over but now i just need to know where to get them at i know some one new a place that sells them the 891 with my toytec gave me reverse rake for that baja stance which im not a huge fan off
 
xskydivingdudex said:
if the 891s are giving u too much rake in the rear then the LCs will only make it worse since they sit higher.
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No, the 891s don't give enough rake. In his case the fronts are higher because the 891s didn't lift it enough. The rake he has calls for a backwards red baseball cap, a tribal band tattoo, at least one star tattoo, a chin-strap beard, and 20-22" chrome wheels with black trim.
 
oh my bad i totally miss read that... haha but ya i know what he means since im running my 882s in the front, the 891s seem to look like my rear is slightly lower.
 
brian2sun said:
No, the 891s don't give enough rake. In his case the fronts are higher because the 891s didn't lift it enough. The rake he has calls for a backwards red baseball cap, a tribal band tattoo, at least one star tattoo, a chin-strap beard, and 20-22" chrome wheels with black trim.
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:lol:
 
Elton H said:
ya with no rear sway bar lc coils are nice and flexy
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... and nice and dangerous to drive on the road with no sway bar!

brian2sun said:
You can't have your cake and eat it too unfortunately. My 891s will hold a crap load of weight with very minimal sagging, but they aren't near as flexy as LCs. LCs flex awesomely, but get short real fast with a few hundred lbs in the back. My 891s do flex enough to rest on the bump stops, but it takes a lot more than the LCs would.

It sounds like you want flex more than weight handling so this is the way I see it for you... Get the LCs and the nice ride that comes with them. When you need to fill up the truck with stuff, they will sag - but only to about the height that the 891s start at anyways (since the LCs sit 1"+ higher).

I personally like my 891s, but I actaully have a rake with mine, which most on here seem to not have (I think it's because I have 883s in the front).
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Weight carrying is more important than flex, IMO. Put a heavy load on a heavy spring, and you will get articulation that was not there before. I'll echo what brian2sun said... you cannot have your cake and eat it too. Flex in the springs is all about compression rate... lbs per inch. a tall spring like the LC coil with a low lbs per inch rating will flex alot, but will also sag a lot if burdened with a load, yeilding poor ride quality and little articulation, unless travleing downhill... there is less load on them... placing the load higher... raising the center of gravity... making your truck unstable. Heavier coils, such as OME, will only flex a lot when there is a heavy load on them, and not as much as the light duty coils.

The best compromise that I have found so far is to get heavy duty coils (I have REALLY heavy duty ones in the back of mine) and get sway bar disconnects for the terrain parks. Unhook for the weekend, and let 'er rip! When you are traveling in the back country or on pavement, you can hook them back up and have good ride quality.

So...

Heavy Coils
Sway Bar Disconnects (F/R)
velcro roll to strap front sway bar to frame and rear to the lower control arms (loose)



My .02
 
Mr. Leary said:
... and nice and dangerous to drive on the road with no sway bar!



Weight carrying is more important than flex, IMO. Put a heavy load on a heavy spring, and you will get articulation that was not there before. I'll echo what brian2sun said... you cannot have your cake and eat it too. Flex in the springs is all about compression rate... lbs per inch. a tall spring like the LC coil with a low lbs per inch rating will flex alot, but will also sag a lot if burdened with a load, yeilding poor ride quality and little articulation, unless travleing downhill... there is less load on them... placing the load higher... raising the center of gravity... making your truck unstable. Heavier coils, such as OME, will only flex a lot when there is a heavy load on them, and not as much as the light duty coils.

The best compromise that I have found so far is to get heavy duty coils (I have REALLY heavy duty ones in the back of mine) and get sway bar disconnects for the terrain parks. Unhook for the weekend, and let 'er rip! When you are traveling in the back country or on pavement, you can hook them back up and have good ride quality.

So...

Heavy Coils
Sway Bar Disconnects (F/R)
velcro roll to strap front sway bar to frame and rear to the lower control arms (loose)



My .02
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:iagree: That's pretty much exactly how I look at it too.
 
Leary and Brian seemed to have knocked the question out of the park... so...

If any of you DO decide to get LC coils :)

then please check out this thread right here for amount of wraps/lift

http://www.toyota-4runner.org/3rd-gen-t4rs/66753-lc-coil-spring-color-codes.html

and then make sure to post up what color codes you ended up getting and what your new measurements are at...

Im also looking into what vehicles/models/trim level these specific ones were put on. some came off the Lexus 470's etc. some the FJ80 some the FJZ80...

thanks so much,
 
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