ordered my lift today-hoping this will work, need help asap

theizzardking

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soo i scraped the taco trd shocks and started from scratch, this is what i'm doing

front

bilstien adjustable 0-2.5" lift shocks
stock '99 coils
diff drop

rear
LC coils
matching bilstein shocks
panhard bracket


my thinking is that using the magical '99 coils that are already an inch taller than any other 4runner combined with the LC coils should sit me about level, as if the LC coils provide 3 inches on a standard 4runner and i throw in the adjustable height shocks on the front which gains me 2.5 + the extra inch from the stock coils puts me at 3.5 lift in the front and 3 in the rear.

again thinking that the lc coils will only gain me 2 inches of my height right now of a stock '99 with the long springs.

is this right guys?
any comments on parts being used?
i can cancel the order but have to do it soon.
thanks guys for the hand ;-)
 
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gonna be one heck of a rack with them 99 coils and lc

are you sure? i'm getting conflicting statements,
remember the '99 coils are +1 inch over any other year of 4runner, so it's like a stock 1 inch lift,

so the 99 coils +the adjustable shocks should put me 3.5 inches above a normal stock 4runner and the lc coils are right about there...right?

(i'm getting all of this for like $350 nowhere near the price of a SS kit)

will the read the link, then post back. ;-)
 
p-nut,

had to read 5 or 6 pages to get to the point where they told me the 5100's are crap on a 4runner, guess i'm going to go with some ome stiff srpings and a spacer god f'ing dammit lol,

anyone else out there running the stiffer ome springs with the lc coils? what spacer kit do you recommend to try and level it out?
 
Same Setup

The setup you detail is what I put on my front end. '99 coils and adjustable Bilstein's with diff drop.

My rears are new OME906's with Bilstein's and pan hard. I will say I didn't get the 3.5" lift you mention. I think I came in at about 2 - 2.5" of lift after everything was all done.

After the lift I put Goodyear Authority Wrangler's (32's) from Walmart and that added about another 1/2 to 3/4 of an inch lift all over. I'm pretty happy with it now and love the ride.
 
The setup you detail is what I put on my front end. '99 coils and adjustable Bilstein's with diff drop.

My rears are new OME906's with Bilstein's and pan hard. I will say I didn't get the 3.5" lift you mention. I think I came in at about 2 - 2.5" of lift after everything was all done.

After the lift I put Goodyear Authority Wrangler's (32's) from Walmart and that added about another 1/2 to 3/4 of an inch lift all over. I'm pretty happy with it now and love the ride.

so the ride is unaffected and it sits level with in 1/4 inch or so?

thanks man for some real world experience ;-)

is your '99 the limited with the longer coils?

25: A lot of companies sell 3" lifts you sell 2" lifts. We sell the same 3" lift as everyone else. It is 2" on a 1999 and More on other years. But if I tell a guy with a 1999 he will get 3" of lift that is lying. Here is how much front lift you will get by the model year.
1996 = 3" to 3.5"
1997 = 3" to 3.5"
1998 = 2.5" to 3"
1999 = 2" to 2.5"
2000 = 3" to 3.5"
2001 = 3" to 3.5"
2002 = 3" to 3.5"

Most years of the 4Runner do lift 3" but 1998 and 1999 DO NOT as they were already higher to begin with. So saying you will give all 3rd Gen 4Runners the same 3" of lift is untrue and I feel dis-honest. Rear lift varies with 1.2 and the 7.2 kits. 1.2 will yield between 3.5 and 4.5 depending on what year it is and 7.2 will yield 2" to 3.5" depending on the year.
 
At least you didn't find out the hard way about the 5100's. I was surprised to hear that, since the Tacoma crowd loves the 5100 series. I'd also suggest against spacer lifts. Why not OME springs at $70-80 a pop?
 
e 3rd Gen 4Runner was introduced in 1996 and apparently Toyota was not pleased with the original front coils as they were changed for the 1997 model year even though no significant changes were made to the 4Runner. These coils ran from 1997 to 1998. In 1999 Toyota added the extra crush zone up front and the fat lip front bumper to facilitate it. Things were good and the 1999 4Runner sat higher than any 3rd Gen 4Runner to date. At the same time the Ford Explorer/Firestone Tire blowout/rollover media blitz hit. Toyota reacted by yanking the 2000 model year down lower mid production very early in the 2000 model years run. The 2001 and the 2002 are without a doubt the "Low Rider" 4Runners. This kit takes the best the factory had to offer in 1999 and applies it to every 4Runner from 1996 to 2002, 2WD and 4WD. The 2WD trucks will go up 2" from where they sat new and 4WD trucks will go up 1" from where they sat new. Does every 1999 have these magic coils? No way, only a few did and the chances of finding them in a junk yard is possible but, it is very slim that you find a 1999 and only a 1999 with the specific options factory installed, not dealer installed.
 
At least you didn't find out the hard way about the 5100's. I was surprised to hear that, since the Tacoma crowd loves the 5100 series. I'd also suggest against spacer lifts. Why not OME springs at $70-80 a pop?

the ome springs will still leave massive rake in the system, i want level. lol
 
At least you didn't find out the hard way about the 5100's. I was surprised to hear that, since the Tacoma crowd loves the 5100 series. I'd also suggest against spacer lifts. Why not OME springs at $70-80 a pop?

i HATE HATE HATE spacers and want to try an avoid them is the $$$ allows
 
You will definitely have a pretty hefty rake in the back, I would suggest something other than the 99' coils up front anyway. They aren't any better than the stock coils you have now, they are just taller. Plus when you compress them even more by using an "adjustable shock" they will definately ride like crap, you are doing the same thing as adding a spacer (which you hate so much). If you want better performance I would go with a non factory spring. Thats just my opinion of course :) Also why are you so set on LC springs for the rear? OME 881/906 should net you a level 3" on a 2000-2002.
 
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You will definitely have a pretty hefty rake in the back, I would suggest something other than the 99' coils up front anyway. They aren't any better than the stock coils you have now, they are just taller. If you want better performance I would go with a non factory spring. Thats just my opinion of course :)

only reason i'm trying to roll with the '99 coils is i already have them on my truck and it's $150 bucks in my pocket ;-)

i'm confused now though as everywhere i've read about the bilsteins say they are horrible on the 4runner..........

but home dude on page one says he's happy with them......aaarrrrgggg

lol
 
should i get the tundra trd springs for the front? and just build my own ss kit?
Front:

Toyota Progressive TRD Front Coil: Driver/Left Side (ONE)--pick 'em up
Toyota Progressive TRD Front Coil: Passenger/Right Side (ONE)--pick 'em up
Bilstein 5125 Series Nickel Plated Adjustable Heavy Duty Front Shocks (TWO)-pick 'em up
Sonoran Steel Fabrication L.L.C. Front Differential Drop Spacers (TWO)-got it


Rear:

Toyota FZJ-80 Land Cruiser Coils (TWO)------have
Bilstein 5125 Series Nickel Plated Shocks (TWO)---will buy
Sonoran Steel Fabrication L.L.C. Custom Polyurethane Shock Bushings (TWO)
Sonoran Steel Fabrication L.L.C. Adjustable Trac/PanHard Bar (ONE) got one

i think that way i should only have to buy 2 coils 4 shocks.......

i'm going brain dead trying to figure this all out! lol
 
Yes, but remember that SS had his Bilstein shocks custom made from the factory. Won't be like anything you can buy off the shelf.

Tundra's seem like a good idea. Also, iirc, 883-884's should fit.

As far as Bil's, I don't know about the guy on the first page, but I whole heartedly trust those guys on ExPo. They get out and wheel. No mall crawlers there.
 
I feel you on the brain deadedness,lol. One thing to keep in mind is that everyones perception of how a vehicle rides is different.

One guy may like the Bilstiens on his 4runner, maybe his other car is a lowered ricer with the coilovers cranked as stiff as possible, he would think his runner rode "nice".

On the other hand people that say the Bils are stiff could be used to driving a stock vehicle which is usually on the softer side, they would perceive them as "stiff".

I don't think you would be happy running th 99 coils with any of the setups you have described you will ether have too much rake or the springs will be too stiff. The Tundra front coils could be a good choice for you, but like I said before this is just my opinion.
 

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