Overland Warehouse Suspension System for 5th Gen 4R

[iDRiVaT4R]

Well, Andries @ Overland Warehouse shipped me a complete 2.5" Coilover Suspension System this week. I will be installing it tomorrow after work. This is basically the "Beta test" kit. I will be taking pics during the install and Hopefully shortly after that post them online here.

I have yet to open the boxes, but here is what should be in them;
2.5" Front Coilovers, stock length
2.5" Rear Shocks, stock length
2 Rear 2" Lift Coil Springs
2 Rear Shock Boots
1 Coilover Adjustment Tool

Both Andries and I decided since I have the KDSS Suspension, it's probably best to keep the shocks stock length as to not put extra strain on the KDSS Pistons and related parts. After going off road twice now, and testing the A-Trac, Rear Locker, KDSS and etc. These 4Runners are plenty capable in stock form and I didn't feel it was necessary to need more travel out of it.

The install should be fairly simple and straightforward, I installed an Icon Kit on my 2008 Tacoma and an OME kit on my friends 2007 4Runner so hopefully there shouldn't be any surprises.

Stay tuned for Pics....

nathan

Edit: Here are two pics, pre-lift and post. Scroll down the posts for pics taken during the install and etc.

Pre-Lift

Post-Lift

 

[ssmathis]

Good to hear. Keep us posted.

 

[06HAOLE]

Nice. So its a complete Radflo system then? Im partial to King shocks but I dont plan on abusing my 4 Runner like my Tacoma anyway.

Is pricing similar to the full 2.5" kit from Overland @$1825

Keep us posted.

 

[iDRiVaT4R]

Just added a couple pics to the original post.

I started Friday around 3ish and finished at 8pm. I did the install solo and for the most part was what I expected it to be. The biggest issues I encountered was with the KDSS system. I decided not to unbolt the mounts going to the lower a-arm. I figured the KDSS pistons would be unable to move, be in a locked position with the ignition off, I was wrong. With the truck lifted, the KDSS piston did extend and the coilover install on the driver side went easy. When I got to the passenger side, the extended piston made the passenger side sway bar push the lower a-arm up, so I had to remove the skid plate and use the floor jack to push the piston back up. Doing this took the pressure off the passenger side a-arm and in-turn actually lowered the a-arm just enough to easily slide in the new coilover.

Oh, and I went ahead and removed the 2 bolts that hold the lower ball joint to the spindle and moved the whole thing out of the way. This made it easier to slide out the old shocks and slide in the new coilovers.

The rear was fairly easy, used the floor jack under each shock axle mount to create flex and move the opposite side down enough to remove the old coil and install the new one. On the passenger side though, with the sway bar still connected to the axle, I could not get enough down travel of the axle to install the new taller coil spring. I removed the passenger side sway bar mount, and gained about 5 more inches of down travel, the coil spring then basically went right in. I leveled out the axle and reinstalled the sway bar and then installed the new shocks. Those went in easily and then I just had to torque everything up and install the tires.

On the road, the ride is much firmer, feels like a truck and the suspension soaks up the large bumps quite nicely. The real test is when I get to go off roading.:thumb3:

Anyways here are a few pics, the rest can be seen at my photobucket account.

 

[Sponge]

How much?

 

[Chopsticks]

Looks awesome!

 

[sandcrawler]

looks really good... the 265/70s don't look undersized with that amount of lift (+ the spidertrax). would love to see more pics...
:bravo:

 

[ArcticEd]

Are those the stock UCA's? Does the extra flex cause any problems?

 

[iDRiVaT4R]

Here are some more pics. First though is the report from the alignment that got done yesterday. Everything is in the green surprisingly.

 

[Titanpat57]

Beautiful...:surfer:

How much of a quicker install do you think a non KDSS would be?

Awesome stance...how loud are the tires, and did you take a hit on the milage?

Thanks in advance

Pat

 

[NTUR4]

Sooo nice!

 

[sandcrawler]

looks bada$$, iDRiVaT4R. thanks for posting more pics. :cheers:

 

[iDRiVaT4R]

Beautiful...:surfer:
How much of a quicker install do you think a non KDSS would be?
Awesome stance...how loud are the tires, and did you take a hit on the milage?
Thanks in advance
Pat

Pat, non KDSS probably would be much quicker, You can easily disconnect the sway bars from the spindles up front and also disconnect them from the rear as well, without having the KDSS pistons working against you.

I had modified the front suspension in my 08' Tacoma so much that I was able to take it from being on the ground with tires mounted to having the thing lifted, tires off, and front shocks out in 40 minutes. It would have been the same thing here with the 4Runner except I wasn't in a hurry and I had to think about the best way to deal with the KDSS. Oh, and with that 40 minute time frame I was using a DEwalt 18volt Cordless Impact so that helped move everything along quickly.

The tires aren't loud at all, about average for a mud terrain style. I took a little hit on the mileage, they are stock size but do weigh more and have the large deep lugs. I was averaging about 16 before them, I'm at 15.5 now, that's according to the built in on board mpg display.

Nathan

 

[iDRiVaT4R]

How much?

$1750, so a little less then the current available kits and this includes adjustment wrench for the coilovers and free shipping. Andries said they will probably be listed online in about a month or so but in the meantime if anyone is interested, you can contact them via email [email protected]

Are those the stock UCA's? Does the extra flex cause any problems?

Yes they are the stock upper control arms. As of right now there doesn't seem to be any problem with them. Most of the time, the upper arms are swapped out with Uni-balls to get that extra amount of down travel many coilovers offer. The coilovers I installed are stock length which is quite nice.

Another reason upper arms are replaced is when these trucks are lifted, you tend to lose caster in the front alignment which can cause lots of steering wheel feedback. With my Tacoma, you wanted at least 2.4 degrees of caster. Most of the time after lifting and keeping stock upper arms, you only have about 1.5 degrees of caster. Something is definitely different with the 2010 4runner because I still have plenty of caster with keeping stock arms as shown on the spec sheet above.

Nathan

 

[splifrover]

Nice kit. I have Radflo's on my long travel 4x4 Nissan Titan. I would love to put this kit on my wife's 5th gen. Maybe when it's time for new tires...

 

[Titanpat57]

Thanks for the info Nathan, and also for sharing the goodies.


I thinks that's magnificant looking, I hosnestly have looked at it 100 times....lol. I'm surprised the hit to the gas milage was minimal. I'm so up in the air what to do about tires I could scream.

 

[harper7]

Well, Andries @ Overland Warehouse shipped me a complete 2.5" Coilover Suspension System this week. I will be installing it tomorrow after work. This is basically the "Beta test" kit. I will be taking pics during the install and Hopefully shortly after that post them online here.

I have yet to open the boxes, but here is what should be in them;
2.5" Front Coilovers, stock length
2.5" Rear Shocks, stock length
2 Rear 2" Lift Coil Springs
2 Rear Shock Boots
1 Coilover Adjustment Tool

Both Andries and I decided since I have the KDSS Suspension, it's probably best to keep the shocks stock length as to not put extra strain on the KDSS Pistons and related parts. After going off road twice now, and testing the A-Trac, Rear Locker, KDSS and etc. These 4Runners are plenty capable in stock form and I didn't feel it was necessary to need more travel out of it.

The install should be fairly simple and straightforward, I installed an Icon Kit on my 2008 Tacoma and an OME kit on my friends 2007 4Runner so hopefully there shouldn't be any surprises.

Stay tuned for Pics....

nathan

Edit: Here are two pics, pre-lift and post. Scroll down the posts for pics taken during the install and etc.

Very nice Nathan!
Great pics and explanations too!
Be sure and let us know how they ride onroad and wheel offroad since you had Icons in the past.
I'm really liking the looks of those 2.5" rear shocks.

 

[masson74]

That is one sweet ride. When I finally pull the plug a few years from now I am guessing I will go with almost exactly what you have done minus the exhaust. Nice build.

 

[lowrange44]

The Overland setup looks pretty sweet. Do you know what the spring rate is... 650lb or 700lb?

I emailed Andries a couple of weeks ago regarding a kit for the 2010 4Runner... I was looking to get the 650LB springs for a slightly softer ride. I think they said the stock spring is in the low to mid 500LB range.

 

[iDRiVaT4R]

The Overland setup looks pretty sweet. Do you know what the spring rate is... 650lb or 700lb?

I emailed Andries a couple of weeks ago regarding a kit for the 2010 4Runner... I was looking to get the 650LB springs for a slightly softer ride. I think they said the stock spring is in the low to mid 500LB range.

Stamped on the coils, it has 700, so I'm guessing it has the 700lb one. I never really went into that with Andries, I basically told him, that down the road I will be putting on a complete set of Budbuilt skids, and possibly an ARB front bumper with winch. That's only if the the bumper looks decent. I'll email Andries today and get an answer for you.

Nathan