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This is what I do for a living. I assure you...that production was not $20K. Likely double that or more... Payment to the rap group, and on-screen speaking talent, was pricey.

I do too. I worked on a music video they shot years back and it was beautiful.

I think we’re agreeing, right? :)
 
Just though I would capture this as a reminder as to how marketing works.. before the site is taken down. You can say whatever you like and have others repeat it for you, but it is nothing but words and pictures really.
 

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It may be just pictures and words but when it’s also given such credibility by someone who is trusted then it enters into the world of reality. And that’s the true science of effective marketing.
 
If i spent a lot of time with a company, r&d'ing a product, doing trips, staying at their home, I'd vouch for them as well. He probably was blindsided worse than anyone here. (then?)

I actually hope you lost money to them:heh::target:

Pretty great timing on his part to sell his 4runner and leave the forum right as this shit started popping up though.
 
It may be just pictures and words but when it’s also given such credibility by someone who is trusted then it enters into the world of reality. And that’s the true science of effective marketing.

It's just the entrance fee that that's causing the problem...#FthePelfrys
 
Pretty great timing on his part to sell his 4runner and leave the forum right as this shit started popping up though.


I don't think that's fair at all, and unless you have proof or direct knowledge...you better stuff that noise where the sun don't shine.
[MENTION=124732]LawnDart[/MENTION] has contributed PLENTY here...across multiple vendors and countless forum members, since he got his truck....for you to suggest something different is waaaaay the F*** of line.
 
I don't think that's fair at all, and unless you have proof or direct knowledge...you better stuff that noise where the sun don't shine.

[MENTION=124732]LawnDart[/MENTION] has contributed PLENTY here...across multiple vendors and countless forum members, since he got his truck....for you to suggest something different is waaaaay the F*** of line.

He's also done everything he can to help the situation for anyone negatively effected by this fiasco. To imply otherwise is just not accurate.
 
I don't think that's fair at all, and unless you have proof or direct knowledge...you better stuff that noise where the sun don't shine.

[MENTION=124732]LawnDart[/MENTION] has contributed PLENTY here...across multiple vendors and countless forum members, since he got his truck....for you to suggest something different is waaaaay the F*** of line.

I 100% agree that it’s not fair and there is ZERO evidence of any wrong doing whatsoever on this member's part.

That said, he did assume the role of spokesman, cheerleader, answering design questions while even personally vouching for them. Even if it is the case that he so prominently put their name on his truck while plastering pictures everywhere without reward, I don’t think it’s unfair to point out that he gave them tons of priceless credibility. I would not be surprised if more than a few of our community members were swayed to buy based on his endorsement.

It’s a crap situation all the way round and I’m sure he feels horrible about how events played out.
 
Re: Lawndart...

That's just a hipster becoming a successful hipster.

Dude nerded/OCD'd out on a product and bought everything under the sun for it. It consumed him, by his own admission...

...and then he lost interest as his new toy became old, and broken under the weight of itself (literally).

Then the Pelfrey thing gave him uber-guilt. Hipsters seem to be super prone to that. It's the same with race - ie white guilt, and all the loser hipsters that apologize 10000x a day for "white privilege" and "cisgender privilege" like Anne Hathaway, lol.

Either way, it's not Lawndart's fault, but we could all learn from his sad story that sometimes you go out to optimize a new toy, and eventually you ruin the **** out of it and it starts ruining you. And if said toy has an Instagram page, you become a consumerist whore and the face of said products you represent, which ruins your reputation to a degree. Sucks, but it's true.

I thus suscribe to the notion that if I have enough time to do Instagram and uber mod my truck, then I'm not spending enough time in the actual woods, and need to rectify that shit. It's bad enough I make time for posts like this lol.

PS - The Pelfreys are scum for using him, and many others. If it's true they picked up a new Lexus, and moved to Texas (there's a song somewhere in that rhyme), then it's even shadier. $5 says the move has something to do with Texas' state laws re: certain kinds of business practice post-bankruptcy.... So.... keep your eyes peeled for these mofos in the modding community down the road.
 
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Yeah, Lawndart has been more than transparent and fair about everything. I don't feel that he deserves any part of the blame here. He has no stake in the company that ripped people off. Frankly he put a lot of is own time, effort and input into helping them make a better product. The fact that they chose to be shady and steal peoples' money has nothing to do with him.
 
i always thought it was dumb that people actually used this hashtag #pelfreybuiltfamily....and even put that on their trucks. its a bumper company....lol
 
The Pelfreys are scum for using him, and many others. If it's true they picked up a new Lexus, and moved to Texas (there's a song somewhere in that rhyme), then it's even shadier. $5 says the move has something to do with Texas' state laws re: certain kinds of business practice post-bankruptcy.... So.... keep your eyes peeled for these mofos in the modding community down the road.

I have done you the favor of editing your post to show the only part of what you said that remotely pertains to this thread topic. Everything else might be your own opinion, and you are rightfully entitled to that, but there is something to be said about keeping those opinions to yourself when it's directly talking about someone who has done nothing to deserve those kinds of comments. That's not what this community has been built on, what this community is here for, nor is it something that should be tolerated. Think before you post, or don't post at all.
 
Re: Lawndart...

That's just a hipster becoming a successful hipster.

Dude nerded/OCD'd out on a product and bought everything under the sun for it. It consumed him, by his own admission...

...and then he lost interest as his new toy became old, and broken under the weight of itself (literally).

Then the Pelfrey thing gave him uber-guilt. Hipsters seem to be super prone to that. It's the same with race - ie white guilt, and all the loser hipsters that apologize 10000x a day for "white privilege" and "cisgender privilege" like Anne Hathaway, lol.

Either way, it's not Lawndart's fault, but we could all learn from his sad story that sometimes you go out to optimize a new toy, and eventually you ruin the **** out of it and it starts ruining you. And if said toy has an Instagram page, you become a consumerist whore and the face of said products you represent, which ruins your reputation to a degree. Sucks, but it's true.

I thus suscribe to the notion that if I have enough time to do Instagram and uber mod my truck, then I'm not spending enough time in the actual woods, and need to rectify that shit. It's bad enough I make time for posts like this lol.

PS - The Pelfreys are scum for using him, and many others. If it's true they picked up a new Lexus, and moved to Texas (there's a song somewhere in that rhyme), then it's even shadier. $5 says the move has something to do with Texas' state laws re: certain kinds of business practice post-bankruptcy.... So.... keep your eyes peeled for these mofos in the modding community down the road.

I too will miss his train wreck of a build but please do remove or at least modify your personal comments about him and then I’ll remove this post as well. We here try to do better than is done on the internet in general. Sometimes we fail but we do try.

Or post it in this thread.
 
Re: Lawndart...

That's just a hipster becoming a successful hipster.

Dude nerded/OCD'd out on a product and bought everything under the sun for it. It consumed him, by his own admission...

...and then he lost interest as his new toy became old, and broken under the weight of itself (literally).

Then the Pelfrey thing gave him uber-guilt. Hipsters seem to be super prone to that. It's the same with race - ie white guilt, and all the loser hipsters that apologize 10000x a day for "white privilege" and "cisgender privilege" like Anne Hathaway, lol.

Either way, it's not Lawndart's fault, but we could all learn from his sad story that sometimes you go out to optimize a new toy, and eventually you ruin the **** out of it and it starts ruining you. And if said toy has an Instagram page, you become a consumerist whore and the face of said products you represent, which ruins your reputation to a degree. Sucks, but it's true.

I thus suscribe to the notion that if I have enough time to do Instagram and uber mod my truck, then I'm not spending enough time in the actual woods, and need to rectify that shit. It's bad enough I make time for posts like this lol.

PS - The Pelfreys are scum for using him, and many others. If it's true they picked up a new Lexus, and moved to Texas (there's a song somewhere in that rhyme), then it's even shadier. $5 says the move has something to do with Texas' state laws re: certain kinds of business practice post-bankruptcy.... So.... keep your eyes peeled for these mofos in the modding community down the road.


 
It may be just pictures and words but when it’s also given such credibility by someone who is trusted then it enters into the world of reality. And that’s the true science of effective marketing.

Very, very well put. The amazing part of what you wrote, is how relevant it is in today's news, politics (I know), and more.

Well said. :bravo:
 
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Send me $3500 deposit and I'll take some words back.

Because hurt feelings is so much more important than hurt wallets.

Everything I said is subjective, and my opinion, or fact-based.

I believe Lawndart talks about OCD in his own build videos.
 
And about Lawndart...

Allow me my 2 cents. In today's social media infested universe, brands like Pelfry now prey upon potential "brand ambassadors." Often giving discounts (not really) and allowing them to run amok touting their products. Free publicity and media generation. All the while making BANK on these people.

There are a lot more of them out there than just Lawndart. And some who are WAY off the reservation.

To each his/her own. It's really none of my business. That said - I think Lawndart should be welcome here for all the work he has done on his own accord.

Like I said...My 2 cents.
 
Who's the one on here crying about things like they're the only one affected?


Dude get a life or GTFO. You have added nothing to this thread, or this forum as of late.

WTF are you gonna do about it, Keyboard Warrior?

For the record, I didn't lose a dime. I just saw the Lawndart build video on Overland Bound, and quickly realized that dude is way, way WAY out of hand.

Then I said it's not his fault, but he still contributed to the dumpster fire.

Sorry if I triggered you and some other progressive cuck warriors.
 
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