**Photography Talk**

[IntoTheVoid]

 

[Stick Figure]

Since I can't get in to Canon vs Nikon debate (SONY hoto: owner) I do have a gear question for everyone. What are you using for a bag?

I started off with a small Pelican to hold the camera w/ kit lens and everything that came with it. It worked great and while a bit awkward still fit in my back pack for hiking. As I added a couple of longer zoom lenses I grabbed a cheap bag that basically fits two lenses and some accessories (if you don't plan to put the body in it). and used that combo last year in combination with the Pelican. Since then I have added 3 more Minolta lenses to the mix including the "beer can" lens which is fairly long for a 200mm lens. I picked up a used 1600 Pelican but still need to order the foam and this will be a great long term storage solution, and will even work well with a lot of trips in the 4Runner. However we all know you probably won't need 6 lenses at any single event. Especially not the 6 lenses that I have right now. So what I am looking for is something that fits in my MR2 Spyder (tricky part here) and holds the camera and a couple of lenses (including the tall beer can which I will have to measure), and doesn't make me feel like I am grossly overpaying for a backpack with some velcro sewn into it(the hardest part so far). Don't get me wrong I'm okay with a cheaper solution as long as the cost matches the construction.

and sorry no picture to post today... I'll try harder next time lol

 

[michael833]

[MENTION=25366]IntoTheVoid[/MENTION], where were these taken?

 

[the great him]

i use lowepro gear. i think its probably the best stuff out there for soft cases. but when i go to afganistan ill be using pelican stuff too.

Since I can't get in to Canon vs Nikon debate (SONY hoto: owner) I do have a gear question for everyone. What are you using for a bag?

I started off with a small Pelican to hold the camera w/ kit lens and everything that came with it. It worked great and while a bit awkward still fit in my back pack for hiking. As I added a couple of longer zoom lenses I grabbed a cheap bag that basically fits two lenses and some accessories (if you don't plan to put the body in it). and used that combo last year in combination with the Pelican. Since then I have added 3 more Minolta lenses to the mix including the "beer can" lens which is fairly long for a 200mm lens. I picked up a used 1600 Pelican but still need to order the foam and this will be a great long term storage solution, and will even work well with a lot of trips in the 4Runner. However we all know you probably won't need 6 lenses at any single event. Especially not the 6 lenses that I have right now. So what I am looking for is something that fits in my MR2 Spyder (tricky part here) and holds the camera and a couple of lenses (including the tall beer can which I will have to measure), and doesn't make me feel like I am grossly overpaying for a backpack with some velcro sewn into it(the hardest part so far). Don't get me wrong I'm okay with a cheaper solution as long as the cost matches the construction.

and sorry no picture to post today... I'll try harder next time lol

 

[Outlander257]

Since I can't get in to Canon vs Nikon debate (SONY hoto: owner) I do have a gear question for everyone. What are you using for a bag?

I started off with a small Pelican to hold the camera w/ kit lens and everything that came with it. It worked great and while a bit awkward still fit in my back pack for hiking. As I added a couple of longer zoom lenses I grabbed a cheap bag that basically fits two lenses and some accessories (if you don't plan to put the body in it). and used that combo last year in combination with the Pelican. Since then I have added 3 more Minolta lenses to the mix including the "beer can" lens which is fairly long for a 200mm lens. I picked up a used 1600 Pelican but still need to order the foam and this will be a great long term storage solution, and will even work well with a lot of trips in the 4Runner. However we all know you probably won't need 6 lenses at any single event. Especially not the 6 lenses that I have right now. So what I am looking for is something that fits in my MR2 Spyder (tricky part here) and holds the camera and a couple of lenses (including the tall beer can which I will have to measure), and doesn't make me feel like I am grossly overpaying for a backpack with some velcro sewn into it(the hardest part so far). Don't get me wrong I'm okay with a cheaper solution as long as the cost matches the construction.

and sorry no picture to post today... I'll try harder next time lol

Not sure if your looking for a sling pack, but I just got the Naneu Correspondent C7, and so far I'm happy with it. It fits the two kit lenses with a Canon T3i and a battery pack. It also has a couple pockets for filters, batteries, and a memory card pouch. I just got it so I haven't been able to really put it through its paces, but it seems well built.

They do make one size bigger which may fit your needs.

Apologies for the crappy quality of the pix...:doh:

 

[the great him]

iso100 18mm f/14 1/15sec

iso100 18mm f/7.1 1/125sec

iso100 18mm f/22 .5sec

iso100 70mm f/32 1/6sec

iso100 18mm f/22 1/8sec

iso100 18mm f/22 1/4sec -just played with the "blacks" and shadows on this one...

iso100 18mm f/22 .8sec

iso100 18mm f/22 .8sec

iso100 18mm f/22 .8sec

iso100 18mm f/7.1 1/125sec

iso100 18mm f/22 .4sec

iso100 28mm f/25 .3sec

iso100 18mm f/22 .3sec


mind you i do not have a tripod, so these were exceedingly hard to get, i probably shot over 400 pics at this spot... thankfully i have a digital, other wise this would of been a lot of money down the drain in film. this one shoot just made the digital switch pay for it self alone.

 

[IntoTheVoid]

[MENTION=25366]IntoTheVoid[/MENTION], where were these taken?

A semi dry lake bed in Eastern Oregon. There are thousands of them out there.

 

[Hepar]

Since I can't get in to Canon vs Nikon debate (SONY hoto: owner) I do have a gear question for everyone. What are you using for a bag?

Lol. There's no real debate. At least not on my end. Both are great companies that offer great cameras. There are small differences, so it really just depends on which falls into the category that fits you best. At the time I stepped up to FX, the D700 fit me more when compared to the 5D mark ii. I didn't need video, liked the build much more of the Nikon, liked the ISO performance and also the FPS with the battery grip (8 fps). Once that decision was made, it sort of locked me into Nikon's as I quickly started to invest in higher quality glass. You can obviously still switch, but it makes it that much harder.

As fars as bags, count me in for another LowePro user. Specifically their AW (all-weather) line. I have a few different sling bags and they all have a built-in rain fly with them. Has come in handy more than once when weather has quickly changed from bluebird to downpour in a blink. I am probably going to buy a full pack soon as I need the space. I can really only take one big lens along with a few smaller ones and some flash equipment in my biggest sling. I would like to have a bag where I could at least cover both ends of the focal range with my 14-24mm and my 70-200mm.



Here's a pic of my nephew that cracks me up every time I see it.

22mm f2.8 1/25 ISO 1000

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[Stick Figure]

i use lowepro gear. i think its probably the best stuff out there for soft cases. but when i go to afganistan ill be using pelican stuff too.

As much as I love the Pelican stuff its not great for a grab and shoot solution.

Not sure if your looking for a sling pack, but I just got the Naneu Correspondent C7, and so far I'm happy with it. It fits the two kit lenses with a Canon T3i and a battery pack. It also has a couple pockets for filters, batteries, and a memory card pouch. I just got it so I haven't been able to really put it through its paces, but it seems well built.

I'm honestly not sure what I'm looking for myself. Which is why I asked what everyone else is using. I do like some of there larger bags, I'll have to measure that damn beercan lens and see how much room I need.

mind you i do not have a tripod, so these were exceedingly hard to get, i probably shot over 400 pics at this spot... thankfully i have a digital, other wise this would of been a lot of money down the drain in film. this one shoot just made the digital switch pay for it self alone.

Amazing photos, but damn buy a tripod already . Then you can at least say you have one but didn't want to drag it all the way to where you can get the good shots lol

 

[the great him]

i got a tripod, i just didnt take it with me... dont know where it is, and am too lazy to look for it or ask the wife... they are cumbersome and slow me down:zoom:

 

[gaterose]

I use a Clik Elite Obscura and when I'm biking I attach the chest pack they make.

http://www.clikelite.com/products/obscura/

I like lowepro a lot but they didn't make one for the activities I need it for.. Or they do, photosport 200 AW, but a friend has that one and I don't care for it that much.

All I really wanted was side camera pocket for easy access, tripod holder, weatherproof, and bladder friendly.. Unfortunately it seems that's a tough bill to fill...

I'm happy with the obscura so far except that its a little awkward when it's not on my back due to the design but I just hang it from a coat hook. The camera port is also a little small and probably won't work if I get a larger format camera.

 

[broncosi]

It may have been mentioned but how do y'all do the effect where the stars are going across the sky? Is that just leaving the shutter open or wouldn't that let too much light in?

 

[Offroader5]

It may have been mentioned but how do y'all do the effect where the stars are going across the sky? Is that just leaving the shutter open or wouldn't that let too much light in?

Mostly, yes...just leaving the shutter open to record the movement. You could get too much light depending on how bright the area is that you're in. It can take a bit of trial and error to get the settings right.

Usually you'll want to open up the lens aperture as much as possible (lowest F number). The next thing to adjust would be the ISO. If you leave the shutter open long enough to get star trails, then you usually don't need to worry about raising the ISO much (if at all) since you really don't need anything other than the stars lit up. If you're in a great spot to see stars fill the sky, then more than likely there won't be much out there brighter than the stars.

The higher the ISO, especially in dark conditions like that...the more likely you are to get noise in the pic. The lower the ISO, the longer the shutter needs to stay open to expose the same picture correctly. A good starting point is the lowest F number and the lowest ISO, then set the shutter for a minute or so...and see what you get from that in terms of exposure. Start adjusting the shutter speed longer and longer till you start to see too much light. That's when you'd need to then think about adjusting the ISO higher...or using a neutral density filter.

 

[michael833]

It may have been mentioned but how do y'all do the effect where the stars are going across the sky? Is that just leaving the shutter open or wouldn't that let too much light in?

Mostly, yes...just leaving the shutter open to record the movement. You could get too much light depending on how bright the area is that you're in. It can take a bit of trial and error to get the settings right.

Usually you'll want to open up the lens aperture as much as possible (lowest F number). The next thing to adjust would be the ISO. If you leave the shutter open long enough to get star trails, then you usually don't need to worry about raising the ISO much (if at all) since you really don't need anything other than the stars lit up. If you're in a great spot to see stars fill the sky, then more than likely there won't be much out there brighter than the stars.

The higher the ISO, especially in dark conditions like that...the more likely you are to get noise in the pic. The lower the ISO, the longer the shutter needs to stay open to expose the same picture correctly. A good starting point is the lowest F number and the lowest ISO, then set the shutter for a minute or so...and see what you get from that in terms of exposure. Start adjusting the shutter speed longer and longer till you start to see too much light. That's when you'd need to then think about adjusting the ISO higher...or using a neutral density filter.

i'll agree to most of this. i'd try to keep the ISO under 800 if possible, otherwise it'll be too noisy. also instead of doing a long-@ss xx-minute exposure, do multiple long exposures and then photoshop them hoes together to make one picture. hay, star trails.

 

[Hepar]

i'll agree to most of this. i'd try to keep the ISO under 800 if possible, otherwise it'll be too noisy. also instead of doing a long-@ss xx-minute exposure, do multiple long exposures and then photoshop them hoes together to make one picture. hay, star trails.

It also makes a huge difference on the size of the sensor on the camera. If you are trying to do this with a crop-sensor camera, it is going to be MUCH more susceptible to noise. With a full-frame camera, you can bump up the ISO much more before you get the same noise. This is all generally speaking of course as different cameras with different sensors and MP's will give you different results.

 

[IntoTheVoid]

 

[farmerjon]

A website for reference.

I know we have this awesome thread (thanks again [MENTION=63060]rickashay[/MENTION]!) but wanted to put this site out to you guys as another source for photography questions/discussion or to ask more specific technical questions, etc...

Photography is part of the larger Stack Exchange network... Q&A's ranging from The Great Outdoors Beta - Stack Exchange to Super User .

Keep up the cool images guys, I enjoy visiting this thread!

 

[DannyLlama]

Thoughts about the newly announce D7100?!

D7100 Nikon Digital Camera| Digital SLR Camera from Nikon

 

[Hepar]

Thoughts about the newly announce D7100?!

D7100 Nikon Digital Camera| Digital SLR Camera from Nikon

Looks good. And if it's better than the 7000, that's saying something.



Does anyone here have a D800? I'm considering buying one, but there are some big concerns that I have and I wanted to ask some questions to someone that has one.


18mm f9 1/320 ISO 200
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