Poor Ratings on the 03 4runner bumper tests!

sammy

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Was watching the Nightly News and saw that the 03's got the worst rating on bumper crashes at low speeds! Whats up with that!!!
Do i need to Invest in those Bumper Guards?
That Sucks!!
 
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it's because the stupid trend in the auto industry is to go with cute color matched plastic bumpers that meet the bare minimum 2 1/2 mph test. i like the days of big metal or rubber bumpers that you could actually hit things with.
 
I also think that Trucks/SUV's do not need to have 5 mph bumpers like most cars do.

Also, I have a silly question. I would love to have light/push bar on the front of a 4Runner (when I purchase one), would that effect the air bag sensors in a front crash?

If the metal does not give enough and the air bad senors are not triggered to go off because the metal took most of the impact, is that defeating the purpose of them? It does not seem safe to me. Yes, you would be saving your front end, but you would still hit the steering wheel or such and the air bag will not deploy to help you out.

Any thoughts on this :confused:
 
silver4x419 said:
Also, I have a silly question. I would love to have light/push bar on the front of a 4Runner (when I purchase one), would that effect the air bag sensors in a front crash?

you'll want to get another opinion, as i don't have a new 4runner with air bags, but i'm pretty sure that the sensors in the 4runner (and most new vehicles) are deceleration sensors rather than impact sensors. so you should be able to get away with putting something on your bumper. even if it is a impact sensor, i don't think it will be a big deal if you put something on there. if it's a small enough accident to not set off the sensors, then you don't want the airbags going off, if it's a big accident, then the light bar isn't going to do much anyway.
 
Yes, most new vehicles have "decellerometers" for airbag ignition. The problem with impact sensors like "first generation airbags" was that airbags would go off in very minor fender benders.

The front brush guards, light bars, etc won't affect the airbags. I don't like them, but you can use them. In fact some brush guard makers advertise they are "airbag compatible". Really, if you stuck a bicycle on the front it would be "airbag compatible".:p
 
sammy said:
Do i need to Invest in those Bumper Guards?
That Sucks!!

Not sure about those bumper guards either because I've seen those get into minor fender benders and boy it caused some major damage!! I'd say for the ultimate protection, go with the steel bumpers.... unfortunately nobody has any of em...
 
sammy said:
Was watching the Nightly News and saw that the 03's got the worst rating on bumper crashes at low speeds! Whats up with that!!!
Do i need to Invest in those Bumper Guards?
That Sucks!!

Well the 4Runner scored the highest in crash testing of any midsize suv! Who cares about bumper covers that can be fixed with an insurance deductible. I care about my life and limbs!

from Edge at yotatech:

Toyota 4Runner is best performer: The redesigned 4Runner improved compared with the previous-generation model that was rated acceptable when the Institute tested it in 1996.

"The previous model had some intrusion into the footwell area, and the steering wheel moved upward too much during the crash, compromising the performance of the restraint system," Lund says. "In contrast, the new 4Runner is a good performer across the board with minimal intrusion into the passenger compartment, a steering column that doesn't move much, and low injury measures on the dummy. It's a good performer and a best pick."

Frontal Offset Crash Test Results

Here's the whole article NEW 40 MPH CRASH TEST RESULTS: 8 OF 9 MIDSIZE SUVs EARN TOP RATING OF GOOD

http://www.highwaysafety.org/news_releases/2003/pr113003.htm

In short the Kia Sorento got an acceptable, worst out of all of them and the Honda Pilot and Infiniti FX35 had recalls issued to upgrade the airbags to deploy faster
 
Yes, good crash results, poor bumper....I guess I would take good crash results over a poor bumper.

I agree; however, the IIHS raises a valid point: Why don't these vehicles have bumpers that will protect the car? How hard can it be?

After hearing about this on the news Friday night, I went out and looked at the bumpers on my new '04 4Runner. They offer NO protection whatsoever for getting clipped at an angle
 
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