possible recall?

[BumRunner]

The problem is that nobody trusts the work that dealers do when it comes to internals... It's rare enough that they never get it right. And I think we all know the track record of most dealer techs. I realize its a horrible stereotype and there are some very good detailed oriented guys out there like yourself... but the patterns have been established... I think most people trust them for bolt-ons and electronics.... but just like people don't feel confident in a body shop that rebuilds the front end of a vehicle, most don't trust a dealer that gets way down deep into the motor and breaking all the seals....

Example:My neighbor has a new Honda min-van that needed a new long block at 4k miles. Wow, what a piece of crap that thing has been ever since. It can't seem to make it a month without a major failure. And I know all of these problems can be traced back to the goof balls at the dealership, there is no way a modern vehicle like this could have been manufactured with all these built in problems. 4k new long block, 10k new AC, 15k new transmission, 20K radiator and power steering..... 25K - catalytic converter. Its sort of a joke. They just don't do these repairs enough to know what the hell they are doing. They miss steps or cross contaminate.... She still has it because it has all been fully covered, but would you want ot buy it when the warranty is up?

Unfortunately pretty soon no one will be able to work on your vehicle besides the dealer. All of us might not have to worry about it anyways though as im about 10000000% percent sure the 4runner is getting the chop in a couple years. The unibody sales are through the roof everywhere..

 

[BlackWorksInc]

The problem is that nobody trusts the work that dealers do when it comes to internals... It's rare enough that they never get it right. And I think we all know the track record of most dealer techs. I realize its a horrible stereotype and there are some very good detailed oriented guys out there like yourself... but the patterns have been established... I think most people trust them for bolt-ons and electronics.... but just like people don't feel confident in a body shop that rebuilds the front end of a vehicle, most don't trust a dealer that gets way down deep into the motor and breaking all the seals....

Example:My neighbor has a new Honda min-van that needed a new long block at 4k miles. Wow, what a piece of crap that thing has been ever since. It can't seem to make it a month without a major failure. And I know all of these problems can be traced back to the goof balls at the dealership, there is no way a modern vehicle like this could have been manufactured with all these built in problems. 4k new long block, 10k new AC, 15k new transmission, 20K radiator and power steering..... 25K - catalytic converter. Its sort of a joke. They just don't do these repairs enough to know what the hell they are doing. They miss steps or cross contaminate.... She still has it because it has all been fully covered, but would you want ot buy it when the warranty is up?

Yeah fair enough, there's no argument against dealership work in general because it's got a ad rap for a reason. But like I said, I'd get everything in writing; worst case they seriously screw something up and you have to push on the dealer/corporate, but if they f'd up big enough they'll probably have to buy the vehicle back. I just think the idea that the vehicle loses value based on having factory warranty work is a flawed logic on both parts. It would essentially make warranty pointless beyond "give old car back, get new car" for every single problem no matter how big or small because it was a Warranty Repair.

 

[HEAVY WT]

I wouldn't be worried. My Acura got new heads under warranty at 40k, and the engine ran perfect and I sold it at 193k. I went and saw it during the week they had it, and there was a lot of stuff taken apart in there, but it all went back together with no issues. I had the CPO warranty till 100k so figured if they put something back wrong I would have 60k to figure it out.

I would say most you should ask for is an extended powertrain warranty.