Power in Numbers

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I don't know how to make this come together, perhaps a moderator will know how. If we all band together and agree with certain changes or enhancements we want to see on the 4runner we could actually make it happan. Toyota will really listen to suggestions made in large numbers. Such as, I would really like to see a TRD package available for the 4runner. Since spare tires have been stolen a more secure method from the factory to secure the spare tire is needed. Stuff like that, we just need to agree on say no more than 10 items. Power in numbers in a tool we can use to make the 4runner even better. This forum is available to us, we should take advantage of this tool to improve the 4runner. I will be buying a 2007 model, and would love to have at least those two items available.
 
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they're already listening. check out the changes made to the 06 and you'll know right away. better yet they were quick to drop the cladding model half way thru their first production model shows THEY LISTEN.

as for the spare getting stolen, if a thief wants it, it doesn't matter how much you secure anything, they'll figure out a way to steal it. it happens unfortunately :(.

As for the trd package, what do you in it? Just wondering.
 
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As for the trd package, what do you in it? Just wondering. [/B][/QUOTE]

To me the TRD package means more off road ability and performance, whether I need it or not. This is what a SUV is all about.
 
iamtwonice said:
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As for the trd package, what do you in it? Just wondering.

To me the TRD package means more off road ability and performance, whether I need it or not. This is what a SUV is all about. [/B][/QUOTE]

all grades come fully equipped for the trails :)

toyota used the "trd packages" as a business selling tool but since most current model trd's no longer have the rear locker that's the only thing you'll miss.

toyota has since moved away from the rear locker since early 2000/01 (i think 2000? - don't quote me) and have started to employ their computer controlled traction system which for the 4th gen works wonders (can't say the same for the 3rd gens though). You really don't even need the rear locker! you can actually go pretty far w/ it's stock form. (i've tested it w/ great success along w/ lots of other members here and on other forums).

asking for the rear locker is a null issue since the market isn't there w/ all of the soccer mom's not using it for the trails. even the tundra doesn't even come w/ the rear locker (go figure).

trd did have the SC but they pulled the plug on that after some problems w/ the internals on the v8 blocks. so no go there unless the demand comes back for them to r&d again.

it's all about $ and unfortunately there's only a small percentage that really cares about offroadability/high performance. Most use it to carry loads to and from malls etc etc and will never see any kind of trails (including the 2wd folks).

It's sad but true. I give props to any individual that still take stheir vehicle offroading (any kind, 2wd/4wd etc etc) cuz they are a dying breed.

btw you do know that they did make some performance improvements by introducing the vvti stuff for 05 right? That in itself is a big change so I doubt you'll see anything else. Some other changes to note, the v6 grade now comes w/ the 5a/t instead of the 4a/t in the previous years (which i think was a great thing for the v6ers)

If you want major changes, wait till the next generation (08/09/10?).

good luck
 
We should get together to make Toyota fix the sulfur smell before asking for personal preferences in options!

Koz
 
Koz said:
We should get together to make Toyota fix the sulfur smell before asking for personal preferences in options!

Koz

Lets just add this to the list along with the options.
 
Koz said:
We should get together to make Toyota fix the sulfur smell before asking for personal preferences in options!

Koz

tell the damn oil refineries not to add all of the crap :)

oddly i don't hear the same vehicles sold in japan having the sulfur problem so it must be the gas (guestimating so don't shoot me).
 
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Koz said:
We should get together to make Toyota fix the sulfur smell before asking for personal preferences in options!

Koz


:iagree:

I would like to see:

an actual off-road model w/more ground clearance and larger tires
a light under the hood
a light in the glove box
HID
auto up/down all windows and lighted switches
more durable paint jobs
real skid plates

That's all I can think of off the top of my head.
 
My 2c :)
- Ground clearance
- 275 or 285 tires, off-road of course + Tire companies like Bridgestone, BFGoodrich, Yokohama should really make off-road tires for 18
 
So far I think we have 6 really good items:

More ground clearance

Bigger tires

All buttons and switches lighted plus auto up and down on all window switches

HID head lights (lets face it halogen lights are old fashioned)

All outside lights should be LED

Optitron dash ( again the present dash is old fashioned)



Please understand there were other really good suggestions, but I feel it is very important to also choose items that most people would enjoy. This increases our chances of getting what we hope to achieve, a much better product. We do need about 4 more other suggestions. We must also remember that only our unity on this can make a difference, many voices are greater than one. Toyota will pay better attention to the majority vote. We must stick together.
 
iamtwonice said:
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We must also remember that only our unity on this can make a difference, many voices are greater than one. Toyota will pay better attention to the majority vote. We must stick together.

Count me on !!!
 
In time it is my hope that we take a vote on the options changes that we want. I only selected 6 items I thought were excellent. In no way am I trying to make the picks, that is what the vote will be for.
 

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