Preowned 4Runner beats new hybrid

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Why a preowned 4Runner beats a new hybrid in total cost of ownership.

Today I was calcuating if buying a preowned 4Runner would be a better choice over a new hybrid vehicle in total cost of ownership. I’m right now in the process of potentially buying a preowned 4Runner, and I wanted to make sure it was the best decision in all aspects.

One aspect of the 4Runner that worried me is the low fuel economy. However after doing the math, my decision is clear. For those who read my original purchase thread, I used a higher price in this calculation than what I'm buying mine for, in case I wish to do upgrades.

My criteria included the following: A new vehicle for comparison had to be an SUV, 40-50+ MPG, Hybrid (electric + gas), a good warrantee (replacement batteries can be expensive), and very important stylish, affordable price ($20K-$30K).

This took me to the 2017 Kia Niro. The base FE provides 50 MPG, and warrantee is 10 years / 100K miles. The following base/average figures are what I used:

4th generation 4Runner, preowned
Average price $16,000
Low average MPG – 15 MPG

2017 Kia Niro FE Hybrid SUV
Build price (kia.com) $25,000
Low average MPG – 50 MPG

I average about 6,000 miles a year. Short commuting and one trip per year in the summer. So, I used this for the figures. I used $3.50 per gallon as the average/high price of gasoline. I didn't caclulate maintenance costs like brakes, tires, belts, hoses, oil changes etc., I figure those to be the same for both.

Niro:
6,000 / 50 = 120 gallons of fuel annually
120 gallons x $3.50 = $420 in fuel cost annually

4Runner
6,000 / 15 = 400 gallons of fuel annually
$420 gallons x $3.50 = $1,400 in fuel cost annually

Annual fuel savings owning the Niro = $980
Price difference between 4Runner & Niro = $9,000

Purchasing the Niro, I'd save $980 year on fuel, but the Niro cost $9,000 more. $980 / $9,000 = 9.1 years. It would take me 9.1 years to break even buying the Niro versus a preowned 4Runner. However, I'd probably want to trade in the Niro at that point because it’s nearing the end of its 10-year warrantee, and I would not want to be stuck with the high price to replace a battery. In addition, I would not have any towing capacity, or off-road ability with the Niro.

The only aspect that would change this calculation is if the 4Runner had a major mechanical issue during the 9.1 years driving up the total cost of ownership. Given the 4Runner’s impressive reliability history, this is most likely not going to occur.

Don’t get me wrong, I’m not knocking hybrid vehicles. I believe hybrids and then 100% electrics will be the ultimate future. The Niro seems impressive. However, after doing the calculations, it really isn’t that financially better than a preowned 4runner in the long run.
 
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I think you may have left out a couple of factors.
First is what is the cost of additional money being tied up in the higher purchase price for the newer vehicle?
Second is what is the residual value of the two vehicles at the end of the comparison period. So purchase price minus residual value equals one component (depreciation) of the cost to own comparison. Depreciation cost is a lot less on an older vehicle.
 
Why a preowned 4Runner beats a new hybrid in total cost of ownership.

Today I was calcuating if buying a preowned 4Runner would be a better choice over a new hybrid vehicle in total cost of ownership. I’m right now in the process of potentially buying a preowned 4Runner, and I wanted to make sure it was the best decision in all aspects.

One aspect of the 4Runner that worried me is the low fuel economy. However after doing the math, my decision is clear. For those who read my original purchase thread, I used a higher price in this calculation than what I'm buying mine for, in case I wish to do upgrades.

My criteria included the following: A new vehicle for comparison had to be an SUV, 40-50+ MPG, Hybrid (electric + gas), a good warrantee (replacement batteries can be expensive), and very important stylish, affordable price ($20K-$30K).

This took me to the 2017 Kia Niro. The base FE provides 50 MPG, and warrantee is 10 years / 100K miles. The following base/average figures are what I used:

4th generation 4Runner, preowned
Average price $16,000
Low average MPG – 15 MPG

2017 Kia Niro FE Hybrid SUV
Build price (kia.com) $25,000
Low average MPG – 50 MPG

I average about 6,000 miles a year. Short commuting and one trip per year in the summer. So, I used this for the figures. I used $3.50 per gallon as the average/high price of gasoline. I didn't caclulate maintenance costs like brakes, tires, belts, hoses, oil changes etc., I figure those to be the same for both.

Niro:
6,000 / 50 = 120 gallons of fuel annually
120 gallons x $3.50 = $420 in fuel cost annually

4Runner
6,000 / 15 = 400 gallons of fuel annually
$420 gallons x $3.50 = $1,400 in fuel cost annually

Annual fuel savings owning the Niro = $980
Price difference between 4Runner & Niro = $9,000

Purchasing the Niro, I'd save $980 year on fuel, but the Niro cost $9,000 more. $980 / $9,000 = 9.1 years. It would take me 9.1 years to break even buying the Niro versus a preowned 4Runner. However, I'd probably want to trade in the Niro at that point because it’s nearing the end of its 10-year warrantee, and I would not want to be stuck with the high price to replace a battery. In addition, I would not have any towing capacity, or off-road ability with the Niro.

The only aspect that would change this calculation is if the 4Runner had a major mechanical issue during the 9.1 years driving up the total cost of ownership. Given the 4Runner’s impressive reliability history, this is most likely not going to occur.

Don’t get me wrong, I’m not knocking hybrid vehicles. I believe hybrids and then 100% electrics will be the ultimate future. The Niro seems impressive. However, after doing the calculations, it really isn’t that financially better than a preowned 4runner in the long run.

I actually got rid of my 2014 Prius I got new for my preowned 4runner. I drive about 400-500 miles a week and the 4runner costs me about $50 more a month to drive when I tally up gas and car payment. If gas prices skyrocket then it would be much more. I loved the Prius for a commuter car. It handled great and it was comfortable. It was also great being able to go on a 1,000 mile road trip and the gas bill be less than $100.

I went with the 4runner because I no longer needed a prius. When I first got the Prius my commute was 800-900 miles a week and gas was around $3.50. I also need to be able to Tow on occasion. I wish I could have kept my Prius as a second vehicle, but I cant afford 2 car payments and towing capacity and a more rugged off road vehicle were something I needed more. One day I will probably get another hybrid as they are great vehicles. Hope this helps you determine what is best for you.
 
I think you may have left out a couple of factors.
First is what is the cost of additional money being tied up in the higher purchase price for the newer vehicle?
Second is what is the residual value of the two vehicles at the end of the comparison period. So purchase price minus residual value equals one component (depreciation) of the cost to own comparison. Depreciation cost is a lot less on an older vehicle.

Very true. If a new car loan is a factor the cost of ownership for the hybrid will be higher and break even point longer. The 4runner will still retain good resale.

In the 9 years the hybrid may seem cheaper not filling up as often. But in the longer term the 4Runner is less expensive to own.
 
Very true. If a new car loan is a factor the cost of ownership for the hybrid will be higher and break even point longer. The 4runner will still retain good resale.

In the 9 years the hybrid may seem cheaper not filling up as often. But in the longer term the 4Runner is less expensive to own.

Besides opportunity cost, you can probably get the 4th gen cheaper than what you estimate, depending on mileage. My 08 4wd v6 was 11k with 120k on the clock 2 years ago. Obviously not purchased from a new car dealership. Depreciation, once used, is like 1k a year but then flattens out. A well maintained Toyota truck will seldom go below 5k n mater the age.
 
The other factor, at least for me, is driving enjoyment. Do you like driving it? I like driving my 4th gen. I like to know I can take the back roads damn near anywhere and it'll get me home. Would I like driving something like the Niro? Probably not.
 
The other factor, at least for me, is driving enjoyment. Do you like driving it? I like driving my 4th gen. I like to know I can take the back roads damn near anywhere and it'll get me home. Would I like driving something like the Niro? Probably not.

A little trip this past weekend. Unable to do this in one of those hybrid cars. Any Arizonaians recognize the hills in the background? Especially Phoenicians!
 

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The other factor, at least for me, is driving enjoyment. Do you like driving it? I like driving my 4th gen. I like to know I can take the back roads damn near anywhere and it'll get me home. Would I like driving something like the Niro? Probably not.

Exactly. The two most reassuring qualites of the 4Runner for me are the reliability and rugged versatility. And discovering that ownership cost is lower in a pre-owned 4Runner is just another reason to like it. :)
 
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