Purchasing a 5th Gen advice.

[RobS10]

Just for fun, I did a TRD sport. Only option I put on it was rear sliding cargo technology, 1600.
45000 dollars. Very plane.
One thing I kinda want, not a need is heated/cooled seats. Limited has that.
Did a limited, and with the slide cargo, only tan interior available, weird..
50000. Without cargo, 48225.
Both of these vehicles are 4wd.

Looks like the Ltd has a $1000 add-on "savings", the Sport, only $500. $50K for a Ltd doesn't sound too bad though.
It's easy to get excited building one on Toyota's website, all the goodies you can add on to particular trim. I mentioned the MTM 3D Camera (part of the Premium Plus Package) and sliding cargo deck to the dealer here in S.F. At first he said I'd wait 4-6 months for a "special order", but a couple weeks later in the process he changed his story to "Toyota's not taking any special orders, take something from our allocation to travel out of the area to someplace that gets a different set of options in theirs". For example, KDSS is easy to find around here, but have seen people on the east coast complaining they can't get it at all. But they get the damn sliding cargo deck easily.

 

[Steve40th396]

Looks like the Ltd has a $1000 add-on "savings", the Sport, only $500. $50K for a Ltd doesn't sound too bad though.
It's easy to get excited building one on Toyota's website, all the goodies you can add on to particular trim. I mentioned the MTM 3D Camera (part of the Premium Plus Package) and sliding cargo deck to the dealer here in S.F. At first he said I'd wait 4-6 months for a "special order", but a couple weeks later in the process he changed his story to "Toyota's not taking any special orders, take something from our allocation to travel out of the area to someplace that gets a different set of options in theirs". For example, KDSS is easy to find around here, but have seen people on the east coast complaining they can't get it at all. But they get the damn sliding cargo deck easily.

That sliding cargo thing must be big due to tailgating, fishing and hunting? No idea.
I dont even KDSS available to add on, or is it standard on the limited?

 

[RobS10]

That sliding cargo thing must be big due to tailgating, fishing and hunting? No idea.
I dont even KDSS available to add on, or is it standard on the limited?

No idea about the sliding cargo deck is a Unicorn in some areas, common in others but I like that it makes the cargo area level when the back seats are down (there is a step up without it). Looked very useful to me!
The Sport and Ltd get the XRAES suspension by default, no KDSS available (only comes on the Off Road and Off Road Premium). XRAES cross links the four shocks and actively balances load, whereas KDSS is basically a super fat traditional sway bar front and back to prevent body lean in turns, but it's attached to a piston at each end that lets it go limp under 12mph for off road articulation. This guy explains it...
Should you buy a Toyota 4runner? Is the suspension good? - YouTube

 

[Steve40th396]

Doing the math, with nothing down for ease, the car new with lower insterest rates would be better for my OCD type mentality. Buy once cry once.
I reached out to a dealership, Fred Anderson Toyota here in South Carolina. Lets see if they can come through. They show the car I want is available 5/2/2022.
But, what will happen is the 2023 will come out and be everything I want.. lol

 

[RobS10]

Doing the math, with nothing down for ease, the car new with lower insterest rates would be better for my OCD type mentality. Buy once cry once.
I reached out to a dealership, Fred Anderson Toyota here in South Carolina. Lets see if they can come through. They show the car I want is available 5/2/2022.
But, what will happen is the 2023 will come out and be everything I want.. lol

Do you know about "Toyota Jeff"? He's at Fred Anderson, does a LOT of Youtube videos of the 4Runner.
5-2 isn't bad at all, hope it works out for you. What did trim you decide on?
I have heard no 6th Gen until '24, but wouldn't buy the first couple years of an all new design, especially if they go to a Turbo 4-banger. The new Seuoia also dropped the roll down rear window, after it's been a signature feature since Day One, like on the 4Runner. But it will probably have more power, better gas mileage, and an 8 speed transmission. Give it a couple years, then if it looks like a winner, trade in your 5th Gen.

 

[Steve40th396]

Do you know about "Toyota Jeff"? He's at Fred Anderson, does a LOT of Youtube videos of the 4Runner.
5-2 isn't bad at all, hope it works out for you. What did trim you decide on?
I have heard no 6th Gen until '24, but wouldn't buy the first couple years of an all new design, especially if they go to a Turbo 4-banger. The new Seuoia also dropped the roll down rear window, after it's been a signature feature since Day One, like on the 4Runner. But it will probably have more power, better gas mileage, and an 8 speed transmission. Give it a couple years, then if it looks like a winner, trade in your 5th Gen.

I have seen his videos. I thought he was North Carolina.
I was looking at the Ltd trim, blue, black interior and cargo tray, since its a hot item...
I wont buy a first year, even with Toyotas reputation of quality.
Tundra is having a few teething issues, but Toyota will have it worked out..

 

[2021nightshade4x4]

Do you know about "Toyota Jeff"? He's at Fred Anderson, does a LOT of Youtube videos of the 4Runner.
5-2 isn't bad at all, hope it works out for you. What did trim you decide on?
I have heard no 6th Gen until '24, but wouldn't buy the first couple years of an all new design, especially if they go to a Turbo 4-banger. The new Seuoia also dropped the roll down rear window, after it's been a signature feature since Day One, like on the 4Runner. But it will probably have more power, better gas mileage, and an 8 speed transmission. Give it a couple years, then if it looks like a winner, trade in your 5th Gen.

Land Cruiser was the perfect SUV


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[RobS10]

I have seen his videos. I thought he was North Carolina.
I was looking at the Ltd trim, blue, black interior and cargo tray, since its a hot item...
I wont buy a first year, even with Toyotas reputation of quality.
Tundra is having a few teething issues, but Toyota will have it worked out..

If you do end up withe a Ltd, here's a nice bonus feature that only comes on that trim...
Toyota 4runner. Set your seat to adjust when it sees your key. - YouTube

 

[Steve40th396]

Found one. 2019 Nightshade in Grey, black interior, 4wd.. Has 3rd seat . Grandkids will love it..
Having it shipped in from another dealership.. No obligation till I see it, but looks very clean.

 

[RobS10]

Found one. 2019 Nightshade in Grey, black interior, 4wd.. Has 3rd seat . Grandkids will love it..
Having it shipped in from another dealership.. No obligation till I see it, but looks very clean.

Make sure to check for frame rust as 4Runners (and for that matter Tacomas and Tundras as well, for that matter) are well known for it if from states that salt the roads. Hope it works out!

 

[Steve40th396]

Make sure to check for frame rust as 4Runners (and for that matter Tacomas and Tundras as well, for that matter) are well known for it if from states that salt the roads. Hope it works out!

I got the carfax, and it was a Dothan Alabama car with one owner.. It was services according to carfax at one dealership..
I will check.
I need to run the vin and check what options it actually came with..

 

[RobS10]

I got the carfax, and it was a Dothan Alabama car with one owner.. It was services according to carfax at one dealership..
I will check.
I need to run the vin and check what options it actually came with..

Sounds good, and you've done your homework. I ran a bunch of 4Runner VINs on Toyota's website when I was looking at Used. I remember seeing a couple on Carvana that originally sold at hard winter states , and immediately took them out of the running. But assume Carfax records would show something like that too.

 

[Steve40th396]

Online at toyota, it talks about a safety recall for a fuel pump.
But, it doesnt say if it was done. I am sure the dealership, toyota, can tell me if it was..

 

[4runr4eva]

Wow. Used prices have really skyrocketed. I’ve heard about high prices in general but haven’t checked for specifics and I’m not in the market.

I bought my ‘18 SR5 w/3rd row and upgraded Entune w/NAV used at a local Ford dealer in July, 2019 with 24,000 miles on it (dealer part of a regional consortium with Toyota dealerships). After tax and license I paid a few bucks over $36,000. I added Toyota 4Runner all weather mats, cargo liner, privacy cover and rear cargo net for another $400 give or take. A couple months later, after slicing open a sidewall on the OEM tires, I had a set of BFG All Terrain TA KOs in stock size installed. The truck has been left as is since. I’ve been very happy with it.

^^^ This. I paid 36k for my brand new 2018 SR5 Premium with rubber mats, cross bars, and cargo cover. Toyota recently offered me 40K with 22k on the ODO. :shocked:

 

[Steve40th396]

^^^ This. I paid 36k for my brand new 2018 SR5 Premium with rubber mats, cross bars, and cargo cover. Toyota recently offered me 40K with 22k on the ODO. :shocked:

They know they can flip it for a profit, due to us (ie me) people needing a vehicle.
If I didnt need one, I would wait it out.

 

[Steve40th396]

Went to dealership , just to look up fuel pump recall. Mine was on list to get it done.
So, even though I dont have the truck, I went ahead and scheduled after tentative date of taking ownership.. Service person explained the issue, low fuel pressure pump may not get signal from HP pump in engine bay to pump fuel.. He said, they have never had a vehicle in with this issue to where it may stall. But, they have had a few check engine lights associated with it.. He was surprised its been almost 2 years and the dealership in Dothan Alabama didnt fix it. They showed servicing of the car its entire ownership there..

 

[RobS10]

Went to dealership , just to look up fuel pump recall. Mine was on list to get it done.
So, even though I dont have the truck, I went ahead and scheduled after tentative date of taking ownership.. Service person explained the issue, low fuel pressure pump may not get signal from HP pump in engine bay to pump fuel.. He said, they have never had a vehicle in with this issue to where it may stall. But, they have had a few check engine lights associated with it.. He was surprised its been almost 2 years and the dealership in Dothan Alabama didnt fix it. They showed servicing of the car its entire ownership there..

I would think a dealer would by law have to fix any Recalls on a used car they are selling.

 

[Steve40th396]

I would think a dealer would by law have to fix any Recalls on a used car they are selling.

Service manager was a bit surprised. The carfax and service history do not show it done, yet on Carfax it shows the recall right before some service getting done.
Is it possible they did it, and just didnt annotate it? I mean, they get paid by Toyota to do it..
recal was noted 10/28/2020 then the car was next seen 2/15/2021 and had alignment checked then 10 days later, tire rotation. 20 months later battery, oil changed.
End of year, traded in to same dealer then sold to place I bought it from..

 

[RobS10]

Service manager was a bit surprised. The carfax and service history do not show it done, yet on Carfax it shows the recall right before some service getting done.
Is it possible they did it, and just didnt annotate it? I mean, they get paid by Toyota to do it..
recal was noted 10/28/2020 then the car was next seen 2/15/2021 and had alignment checked then 10 days later, tire rotation. 20 months later battery, oil changed.
End of year, traded in to same dealer then sold to place I bought it from..

Hmm, I don't know, but hard to believe that it wouldn't be in the records if they did the work, labor hours billed, parts purchased. I thought everything done at the dealer is part of the vehicles Permanent Record that can be looked up. I suppose the part could have been on back order and the owner just never got around to getting it done? Either way, if the computer doesn't show it ever being done, I think they (the current selling dealer) is obligated to fix it on Toyota's dime, even if it was already done but no record of it.

 

[Steve40th396]

Hmm, I don't know, but hard to believe that it wouldn't be in the records if they did the work, labor hours billed, parts purchased. I thought everything done at the dealer is part of the vehicles Permanent Record that can be looked up. I suppose the part could have been on back order and the owner just never got around to getting it done? Either way, if the computer doesn't show it ever being done, I think they (the current selling dealer) is obligated to fix it on Toyota's dime, even if it was already done but no record of it.

Its getting done once it is shipped here.
I know I have had recalls on my daughters vehicles. When traveling and wife working 6 to 7 days a week, sometimes we have no time. No great excuse, but sometimes you blow stuff off.
Maybe that is what the owner did.
I wrote an email and talked to a lady at the dealership. They said they would look into it.. We shall see.