Purchasing a 5th Gen advice.

[BillsRunner]

needle bearing, front diff - listen and feel

When you test drive - listen and feel for needle bearing and front diff gears problems. After warm up, get it up to about 45 and let off the gas. Listen and feel for vibration down to about 35. There's a TSB.....

 

[Steve40th396]

When you test drive - listen and feel for needle bearing and front diff gears problems. After warm up, get it up to about 45 and let off the gas. Listen and feel for vibration down to about 35. There's a TSB.....

Thank you, will do.. Is this for Limited diffs? Arent they different than the other 4runners?
Good thing, warranty is still valid on powertrain too, for 6k miles.. doubt there is any issue with powertrain.

 

[RobS10]

Thank you, will do.. Is this for Limited diffs? Arent they different than the other 4runners?
Good thing, warranty is still valid on powertrain too, for 6k miles.. doubt there is any issue with powertrain.

I believe the Ltds have the same differentials. Transfer Case is the difference. They get Full Time 4wd instead of Part Time

 

[Mark Linkous]

I believe the Ltds have the same differentials. Transfer Case is the difference. They get Full Time 4wd instead of Part Time

If so, that begs the question of how difficult it would be to add the Torsen Differential to an ORP/SR5.
I do not remember ever reading about someone doing so, but wouldn’t surprise me totally. If folks have but solid axles in the front…

 

[2021nightshade4x4]

What is a Torsen diff vs any other option? Is that referring to the front diff, or a viscous coupling in the transfer case?

My 1995 JGC has an NV249 with only two modes, 4 full time and 4 lo. It has a viscous coupling. Never gotten stuck in anything in hi range. And I don’t even think it’s got limited slip.


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[Steve40th396]

Torsen is a brand name of a specific type of center pumpkin section of diff.
Wr have LSD(air, hydraulic and mechanical locking), Detroit Lockers, Open, posiitractiin, torsen. So many types out there that move cars.
All it comes down to, what is best for your type of driving and needs.
Torsen(R) Traction

 

[Steve40th396]

Well, got the vehicle. Its pretty nice.
Need a couple trim pieces. Did not notice them till I got home.

 

[RobS10]

Well, got the vehicle. Its pretty nice.
Need a couple trim pieces. Did not notice them till I got home.

Is this the Limited you were talking about?
Did the dealer sell it missing the trim piece below the clock??

 

[Steve40th396]

Is this the Limited you were talking about?
Did the dealer sell it missing the trim piece below the clock??

Yes, I did not even notice it. It was both our faults. I am going back there to talk to them.
I think the dash was taken apart, no other reason to do be missing.
I was trying to find the parts online, and the toyota pictures arent very good.
Any idea if these parts are even available?

 

[RobS10]

Yes, I did not even notice it. It was both our faults. I am going back there to talk to them.
I think the dash was taken apart, no other reason to do be missing.
I was trying to find the parts online, and the toyota pictures arent very good.
Any idea if these parts are even available?

It's a really odd piece to be missing, and would be curious as to why!
I'm sure you could get a replacement with a trip to the dealer's Parts Department.

 

[Steve40th396]

It's a really odd piece to be missing, and would be curious as to why!
I'm sure you could get a replacement with a trip to the dealer's Parts Department.

I started a new thread to ask for that part. 2 dealerships cant find it..

 

[Humble Leader]

It's a really odd piece to be missing, and would be curious as to why!
I'm sure you could get a replacement with a trip to the dealer's Parts Department.

someone probably had an aftermarket head unit in there. some require the trim around the vent control (also missing) and the top piece to be transferred over. wonder if previous owner put back the original head unit and didn't bother swapping the trim

 

[2021nightshade4x4]

Well, got the vehicle. Its pretty nice.
Need a couple trim pieces. Did not notice them till I got home.

Google Toyota 0000049060


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[Steve40th396]

someone probably had an aftermarket head unit in there. some require the trim around the vent control (also missing) and the top piece to be transferred over. wonder if previous owner put back the original head unit and didn't bother swapping the trim

Makes sense.
This person also had bumper off.
Missing bolts, and black piece that goes under fender, below headlight on oassenger side had wrong bolt holding it in. Sorry pos person had a fender bolt vice gine thread in there. Fixed it. But, its not holding.

 

[Steve40th396]

Google Toyota 0000049060


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Thnx..

 

[RobS10]

Makes sense.
This person also had bumper off.
Missing bolts, and black piece that goes under fender, below headlight on oassenger side had wrong bolt holding it in. Sorry pos person had a fender bolt vice gine thread in there. Fixed it. But, its not holding.

I guess file that under "Things that make you go Hmmmmm".
I would make the dealer fix all that nonsense ASAP. No reason to pay extra through a dealer and get a late model vehicle that's missing parts, or not bolted back together properly.

 

[Steve40th396]

I guess file that under "Things that make you go Hmmmmm".
I would make the dealer fix all that nonsense ASAP. No reason to pay extra through a dealer and get a late model vehicle that's missing parts, or not bolted back together properly.

I am going to get it fixed tomorrow. First thing is the recall..

 

[Steve40th396]

Due to traveling in a few days, I was in too much of a rush to thouroughly go through this car.
Its a solid car with some used car issues, which can be resolved, hopefully.
I just left a message with the management of my concerns, and will see them tomorrow.

 

[Steve40th396]

Some observations on my purchase.
Fuel economy, well, sux. I knew going into it it wouldn't be great.
But, drove 400 miles at 82to 85 and got 18.3, via fuel put in not dash.
Then drove the same route at 72-75 and got 20.5.
Head unit is a T8 android, not the best of the aftermarkets, but, for what I use it for, it works.. Thinking of getting android auto dongle, wired, as this wont do wireless.. Maybe later.
Headlights were okay. Did the H9 low beam mod. Little better.. Need to adjust them as left is a little higher than right. Will do that when I get back next week.
Drives nice. Panic stopped a couple times, and like all 4runners, nosedives. But it, stops pretty good.
When I got it, tire pressure was at 44. Lowered it to 36psi, seems good. Tires are low quality Sailun Terramax HLTs. Brand new, but will eventually get better ones.
Underneath is clean.
Only issue, is the bumper. It has the gap.. Will get it fixed upon return, as dealership I bought from said they will get it done..