Rear Long Travel - Cantilever - 5th Gen

[Inv4drZm]

You can get the same amount of travel with a 14" short bodied King shock with a custom shock hoop. Not to mention probably easier to tune as it's a 1:1 movement ratio with the tire. That is, if you have the wheel spacing or axle width to fit the shock.

The cantilever kit looks like a lot of fabrication involved. Cutting off both panhard bar mounts and welding on custom ones. Just as much custom work as cutting into the body and reboxing it in to fit huge shocks or coilovers IMO.

 

[WeedKillrr]

You can get the same amount of travel with a 14" short bodied King shock with a custom shock hoop.

:thumb3:

 

[mattgeeee]

You can get the same amount of travel with a 14" short bodied King shock with a custom shock hoop. Not to mention probably easier to tune as it's a 1:1 movement ratio with the tire. That is, if you have the wheel spacing or axle width to fit the shock.

The cantilever kit looks like a lot of fabrication involved. Cutting off both panhard bar mounts and welding on custom ones. Just as much custom work as cutting into the body and reboxing it in to fit huge shocks or coilovers IMO.

You're correct, you can absolutely obtain the same travel with a longer shock through the cab, since that's what most other SUVs do.
Though it might be difficult to find a decent coil that's that tall. I think trying to fit a coilover/bypass setup would be tough.

I replaced my Tundra that had a full bed cage with the 4Runner so I could have more room on trips.
So punching through the cab and eliminating some of that space wasn't an option for me.
I currently have 3.0 2-tube bypasses in the rear, and had to run spacers to not rub the hoses/reservoirs. So with the cantilever kit it'll be nice to eliminate spacers and not worry about rubbing as well.

The amount of work required for either a longer shock or this cantilever kit is probably about the same.
Though I'll let you know once I actually install it, LOL

 

[nimby]

You can get the same amount of travel with a 14" short bodied King shock with a custom shock hoop. Not to mention probably easier to tune as it's a 1:1 movement ratio with the tire. That is, if you have the wheel spacing or axle width to fit the shock.

The cantilever kit looks like a lot of fabrication involved. Cutting off both panhard bar mounts and welding on custom ones. Just as much custom work as cutting into the body and reboxing it in to fit huge shocks or coilovers IMO.

Yeah, but cantilever.

 

[nimby]

Did you install this yet?

 

[mattgeeee]

Did you install this yet?

Received the kit and decided to have them do the install.

They currently have the 4Runner.
I should have it back in a few weeks here

 

[Florunner78]

Received the kit and decided to have them do the install.

They currently have the 4Runner.
I should have it back in a few weeks here

 

[mattgeeee]

I haven't been on here in awhile... haha my bad!
I'll make a better write-up later, but here's the majority of it...

Went down on a 3 day baja trip a few weeks ago and the thing was solid! :rockon:
The rear feels WAY better than it did before. It's now keeping up with or out performing the front.
Still need to head up to Johnson Valley one of these days and have a dedicated tuning day.

Travel numbers where they sit currently: 13.5" driver 15.5-16" on the passenger's side...

When I first got the truck back the driver's side upper link was contacting the gas tank and limiting driver side travel at 11.5".
They made some bent upper links and moved the bumps up an inch and a half or so (they were still mounted using Chaos' bump kit). 33s are about as big as you can stuff in the rear now.
At full bump the rocker arms were contacting the cab as well. So I made some cutouts in the body and boxed them in (all under the carpeted area).

Also they had 500lb/in springs in the rear, I swapped those out to 600lb/in and it doesn't sag as bad in the rear with those.

There's currently a decent amount of binding when the rear droops out, so I'm tossing around the idea of 3 linking it (we'll see when I get to that).
At a minimum I'm going to see if I can make some plated upper arms that have more of a bend to them to even up the travel..
I'll likely make a new mount on the axle side for the pan hard to see if that helps with the binding (rotating the rod end 90deg so it's in the direction of travel)

 

[Florunner78]

I haven't been on here in awhile... haha my bad!
I'll make a better write-up later, but here's the majority of it...

Went down on a 3 day baja trip a few weeks ago and the thing was solid! :rockon:
The rear feels WAY better than it did before. It's now keeping up with or out performing the front.
Still need to head up to Johnson Valley one of these days and have a dedicated tuning day.

Travel numbers where they sit currently: 13.5" driver 15.5-16" on the passenger's side...

When I first got the truck back the driver's side upper link was contacting the gas tank and limiting driver side travel at 11.5".
They made some bent upper links and moved the bumps up an inch and a half or so (they were still mounted using Chaos' bump kit). 33s are about as big as you can stuff in the rear now.
At full bump the rocker arms were contacting the cab as well. So I made some cutouts in the body and boxed them in (all under the carpeted area).

Also they had 500lb/in springs in the rear, I swapped those out to 600lb/in and it doesn't sag as bad in the rear with those.

There's currently a decent amount of binding when the rear droops out, so I'm tossing around the idea of 3 linking it (we'll see when I get to that).
At a minimum I'm going to see if I can make some plated upper arms that have more of a bend to them to even up the travel..
I'll likely make a new mount on the axle side for the pan hard to see if that helps with the binding (rotating the rod end 90deg so it's in the direction of travel)

So. Very. Sick.

 

[honda250xtitan]

I haven't been on here in awhile... haha my bad!
I'll make a better write-up later, but here's the majority of it...

Went down on a 3 day baja trip a few weeks ago and the thing was solid! :rockon:
The rear feels WAY better than it did before. It's now keeping up with or out performing the front.
Still need to head up to Johnson Valley one of these days and have a dedicated tuning day.

Travel numbers where they sit currently: 13.5" driver 15.5-16" on the passenger's side...

When I first got the truck back the driver's side upper link was contacting the gas tank and limiting driver side travel at 11.5".
They made some bent upper links and moved the bumps up an inch and a half or so (they were still mounted using Chaos' bump kit). 33s are about as big as you can stuff in the rear now.
At full bump the rocker arms were contacting the cab as well. So I made some cutouts in the body and boxed them in (all under the carpeted area).

Also they had 500lb/in springs in the rear, I swapped those out to 600lb/in and it doesn't sag as bad in the rear with those.

There's currently a decent amount of binding when the rear droops out, so I'm tossing around the idea of 3 linking it (we'll see when I get to that).
At a minimum I'm going to see if I can make some plated upper arms that have more of a bend to them to even up the travel..
I'll likely make a new mount on the axle side for the pan hard to see if that helps with the binding (rotating the rod end 90deg so it's in the direction of travel)

Damn thats awesome.

 

[nimby]

Awesome! Congrats!

 

[cbanders]

How's this setup treating you?

 

[jray29]

^ am curious as well.

 

[mattgeeee]

I ended up 3-linking the 4Runner, revalving the bypasses/coilovers and several other things.

If you’re planning on running a cantilever kit you have to 3-link it to get good clean travel. No other way around it.

The valving supplied was pretty far off and blew through the travel easily so I revalved it and that also helped.

Ultimately I ended up selling it and buying/building a newer Silverado. lol
Those 8” shocks were doing a lot of work so I was rebuilding the shocks pretty regularly and it was not so fun to drive on the road. The built Chevy drives like a stock truck on road and still kills it off road