Revos vs. Snow Tires?

[bxc13]

Hi all,

I have a dilema. I was looking to get dedicated winter tires for my stock 17" wheels and upgrade to 265/70 size. I already have another set of rims/tires for the summer (20" enkei's)

I was going to buy Blizzaks (great experience in the past with these), however been reading alot about the Revos. Just wondering if anyone can compare the two. Price is nearly the same. How do the Revos perform in snow/ice/slush?

I like the idea of having the best possible winter traction, but also like the idea of having a great all-around tire for those winter days that are cold, but no snow or ice. The weather is somewhat unpredictable here in Cleveland, Ohio.

Thanks,
Bill
'03 Sport V6 4x4

 

[Gromulus]

Snow Belt

Bill,

I would be interested as well. We had a record snowfall last season here in Cleveland. I live in the snow belt, close to Chardon and work on the west side of Cleveland.

Needless to say, I can relate.

 

[eorange]

I used to work in Concord for many, many years. I had Michelin LTX MS tires on my '99 Exploder and they did great.

Anyway, I am wondering how the stock Dunlops will do this winter. I have read nothing but good about the Revos, but on the other hand it seems ridiculous to buy new tires when I will have only 5500 miles on the Dunlops going into this winter!

Erik

 

[bxc13]

Nice to see some fellow Clevelander's can relate.

Last winter was just plain ridiculous. Gromulus, Chardon is THE snowbelt. I always think it is bad here in Hinckley until I hear about Chardon. You guys measure snow in feet, not inches.

Eorange, tough call on getting new tires since yours are so new. I try to just look at it as pre-paid insurance. When my wife skid on "black ice" a few years ago, I realized how important tires can be and how 4wd can sometime give a false sense of security. When I had my Blizzaks on my 1998 Limited I almost never needed 4wd- most importantly, stopped when I needed to

Hopefully, someone can share some good winter driving stories with the Revos.


Bill

 

[ToolmanJohn]

I'm getting Blizzaks

Actually they will be mounted this coming Saturday on my stock wheels. I bought a set of Sequioa rims for the rest of the year, and those will get 4 Goodyear Fortera Triple-Tread tires

I read nothing but good things about Blizzaks, and $700 is real cheap insurance for better handling and especially stopping distances in the Winter for a few years while the tread lasts.

If you can afford dedicated Winter rubber, get it. There are no all-season tires that can match a real winter tire on ice and snow covered roads. Winter tires have many, many more sipes , deeper blocks, and a softer compound for better traction on wet roads. All-Season tires have a harder longer lasting rubber compound, and don't stick like a winter tire. They make comprimises so they will last longer.

 

[Gromulus]

Fellow NE Ohioians

Well it's good to know there are fellow NE Ohioans (sp?) on the forum!

Erik, actually I live in Concord Township, only 2 1/2 miles from "downtown" Chardon. I can go from no snow at work on the west side to 1 ft of snow at home. Just another 1 - 2 miles down the road on Ravenna or RT. 44 and it can be 2 ft or more!

I have Michelin Cross Terrains on my 04 and they do pretty good. I also plan on getting Revos if the Michelins ever wear out (30K miles) so I am curious as to their performance on ice and snow.

I will say that the Michelins are a very good (and quiet!) road tire.

This talk of winter gets me depressed. In a few weeks I will be taking the deck off my tractor and putting on the snow blade as well as firing up my Honda blower. See what you warm-weather guys miss!

 

[kullenberg]

I posted this in another discussion:"I put a set of Revo's on my 4Runner about 20k miles ago, and never looked back. I had a set of X Terr. on the ML430 I had before the 4Runner, and they were pretty good in the snow. The combination of the 4Runner and the Revo's is awesome. Last winter, I made it up 10" of unplowed snow, on my steep drive and never spun a wheel. Just locked the center diff. The Merc would spin until the traction control took over. I highly recomend the Revo's.
"
I got rid of the Dunlops at 12k miles!

I live in the mtns of western NC, and we average 100" of snow a year. The Revo's have been sensational
:awais:

 

[a3fnqpjw]

i have the same question with the snow but with the Bridgestones Dueler H/T? how well would they handle in snow?

 

[MARSHALLMAY]

i guess my curiousity has gotten the best of me. I see lots of posts about the revo tires, and I was wondering. What is so good about them? Is it high quality or status? Personally, my geolandar at+II's are a great bang for the buck. can someone shine some light on this subject?

 

[eorange]

Re: Fellow NE Ohioians

Erik, actually I live in Concord Township, only 2 1/2 miles from "downtown" Chardon. I can go from no snow at work on the west side to 1 ft of snow at home. Just another 1 - 2 miles down the road on Ravenna or RT. 44 and it can be 2 ft or more!

I used to work right off of Auburn road, just down from the BP/McDonalds complex. I will never forget leaving work with 1-2 feet of snow, driving west on 90 and out of the storm, looking in the rearview mirror and seeing a dark storm splotch behind me, and enjoying sunshine by the time I hit 271 and only 1 inch of snow at home (still on the east side!) I am originally from Pa. and the snow belt is the weirdest thing I've ever seen.

Yeah, the Michelins were very quiet, I remember that now. Sigh, maybe we'll have a mild winter this year! Temps have not been too bad. At least a year would go by which would help me justify new Revos, ha ha.

Erik

 

[doctob]

Are the revo's noisier than the Cross-Terrains? I am thinking about loosing my dunlops and going up a size. If I do, I am also thinking about turning them inside out and having blackwalls....Any ideas?

 

[CGY_LTD_V8]

I drove with my michelins last winter with no problems at all. On our suv's we have never changed tires in the winter. We have always just used the all seasons on the vehicle. I know my step-dad's getting a set of 17" (i think) for his GS though, he was looking at the Blizzaks or something from michelin.

 

[Northof49]

Nothing this side of chains will beat Blizzaks in icy/snowy conditions.

That said, I drove the stock Dunlops on my 03 for 2 years straight. We get pretty serious winters here and we never had a problem......and the road to my house is like driving up/down a cliff. Would others tires (Revo's, Michelins, or dedicated winters, etc) have been better? Yes, without a doubt......I say give the stockers a try and see if they'll work for you.

If you want just winter tires, buy some zaks and use the stockers for summers.......if you want a better all-year tire, buy a Revo, Michelin LTX or BFG A/T and take the hit on the stockers I guess.

 

[4RUNNER_RULES]

I have dunlops on mine right now and also thought of getting revos or blizzaks after reading some on the threads on dunflops.

I think it boils down to get snow tire, if planning to keep another set. I saw this replica rims http://www.discounttiredirect.com/d...5&wd=17&pc=53710&rw=7.5&bp=6-139.7&vid=008288

I have seen this in ebay as well $400 for set of 4 plus shipping.

But, most likely I will to wait a year or 2 to get the revos, like the rest of the folks who waited. Can't really justify the purchase right not since I only have 3K on my dunflops and will probably make it thru winter. Next winter will be a different question.

 

[ToolmanJohn]

Not great... Just Ok

i have the same question with the snow but with the Bridgestones Dueler H/T? how well would they handle in snow?

These are the tires that are coming off the truck. They can get you going in 4wd of course. But they do not hold well on a turn, once they release you hope the anti-locks slow you down back into traction. Had a couple scary moments the last couple years while simply following traffic. The combination of the heavier SUV and All-Season tires isn't very confidence inspiring. Even spun the truck once, while in 4WD from a start turning a corner. We had a lot more snow than normal last year.


The treads seem ok, but I won't take a chance anymore.


Mine have 30k on them, and I plan on selling them locally, maybe $20 each I hope.

 

[TechWrench]

i have the same question with the snow but with the Bridgestones Dueler H/T? how well would they handle in snow?

I went through my first winter with my '03 and the H/Ts and I didn't like them for snow. The were ok if you behaved, but were very unpredictable and would surprise you if you weren't careful. I put a set of Revo's on OEM 16" steel wheels the next fall and will not go through another upstate winter without them. They stick in wet weather better than any other tire I have used, and never let me down in the snow. The noise level is only slightly higher than the H/Ts, not enough to bother me. I don't off-road much during the summer, so I can live with the H/Ts then and save the Revo's for fall and winter. I wouldn't hesitate to buy the Revo's again.

 

[PapaSmith]

i have the same question with the snow but with the Bridgestones Dueler H/T? how well would they handle in snow?

I had the Dueler H/Ts last winter here in Boston. The tires will get you going, but that's not the issue. I live on a winding road... and going a very safe 20mph I was skidding around corners. The trucks weight was too much for tires in corners, and even stopping was a sometimes white-knuckle event.
The Duelers are fine for summer, but I won't go through a winter with them again. I just had Revos installed. Thought long and hard about true winter tires, but we occassionally see 70 degree days pop up here in the middle of 20-30 degree months. So, the Revos are perfect for me. Pricey, but there are two good reasons to get 'em. Cheap winter insurance (as stated earlier), and they'll double the life of your summer tires. Money wisely spent, I say.
Dump the Deuler H/Ts when the snow starts flying.

 

[RunUp]

I drove the Dueler H/T's from Tennesse to Wyoming and they were okay in the rain.
However, last night, driving on an ex-dirt now mud road, I almost lost it a couple of times. I'm waiting till I get back home but I'm getting the Revos. I need something for snow and mud. From reading this forum, it seems that the Revo's are best for both of those conditions. Anyone think the Blizzacks would do better in mud?
The money spent on the tires are definetly cheaper than if I had to spend it on my insurance's deductible(not to mention personal injury etc.)

 

[ToolmanJohn]

Stick with Revo's

Anyone think the Blizzacks would do better in mud?

Nope. The Blizzacks are a Winter condition tire. For paved roads (asphalt). They are supposed to be excellent on wet, snowy roads, hard pack snow, and icy conditiions. They are diesigned to quicky channel water away from the tire surface so more rubber (soft compound) makes contact with the driving surface.

A tire that would do well in mud would have larger, taller tread blocks to dig through and get to the firmer ground under the mud.

 

[ToolmanJohn]

Here are the Blizzaks

Just got these Blizzaks mounted today. I'll put them on the truck when the snow hits. They are OEM size 265/65/R17.

But first, I have to try out the 4 new Goodyear Fortera Triple Treads that I had put on the new wheelset. They also have the M+S snowflake symbol, but have a very high rating for wet and dry weather handling.

The Fortera's only came in 265/70/R17 so I had to upsize the tire slightly. I noticed a very light rubbing (front wheelwell) when backing up my inclined driveway, so the fit is not perfect. This MAY have something to do with the Sequoia wheels they are mounted on.