Rock Slider Questions

BlackWorksInc

BlackWorksInc

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Was looking online while waiting on a response from ShrockWorks before I go ahead and buy the bumper and was looking at their Rock Sliders also. I also noticed that CBI Offers some Sliders as well and was confused by their website a little so I figured I'd ask you guys about it.

So here's the first question; Do the ShrockWorks or CBI Rock Sliders stick out enough to be used as steps? The pictures on the website make it difficult to judge well.

Second, CBI offers a "DOM" upgrade, what in the Sam Hill is that? I didn't see any information on that.

Third, how useful do you guys think the optional "kick outs" on the CBI Rock Sliders would be?

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I can't speak on how far they stick out since I've not seen them myself and I'm not real sure on how effective the kickouts are. I've had 2 previous vehicles with sliders and neither of them had any kind of kickout...and they were both rock crawling rigs.

DOM is only a method used to manufacture the tubing. DOM stands for drawn over mandrel. DOM *can* be a seamless tube but not always, which is usually more expensive. Primarily DOM is thicker wall than a HREW tube (hot rolled electrically welded). If you're holding a piece of HREW, you'll notice a ridge on the inside that runs the length of the tube...this is the welded seam. The ridge is there because it's not drawn over a mandrel. DOM will not have this ridge.

The benefits IMO of a DOM tube is that it is more uniform in ID tolerance since it has been drawn over a mandrel. This makes it a better choice for sleeving smaller tube into it to double up the thickness and for slug/splice connections. Plus, the seamed area of a DOM tube is going to be a bit stronger in relation to the seam of an HREW...which makes it a good choice for high impact use.
 
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I have the ShrockWorks sliders and like them a lot. As far as using them as a step, you can if you're careful. They don't stick out a lot, but enough for a toe hold and that's about it. I think someone here put some non-skid on top of theirs to make them easier to step on.
 
That DO slider looks kinda cool, but, wouldn't square tubing get caught on rocks easier than tube stock? Also, not to thrilled about the idea of welding on my frame, won't have access to welding equipment until about September. :(
 
Here is a closer image for you.

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BlackWorksInc said:
Do the ShrockWorks or CBI Rock Sliders stick out enough to be used as steps? The pictures on the website make it difficult to judge well.
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Can only comment on the Shrockworks.

My roof rack gets used often and so I use the sliders (Hanna, fits only '03 thru '05) as a step frequently. I'm pretty happy with how far they stick out for that purpose, but definitely wouldn't want any less. Here's a pic comparing the two, Shrockworks on bottom. Maybe it will help you decide. Camera angle difference affects accuracy but it's reasonably close.


slidersbirdseye.jpg~original
 
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Bringing this back for an update on Rock Slider related questions.

~How useful are Kick-Outs on sliders for our vehicles?
~How difficult is maintanence to things like the brake lines, or frame with welded on rocksliders?
~Box or round tube stock? Which is more useful?
 
~How useful are Kick-Outs on sliders for our vehicles?

I have a set of Stubbs weld-on, and they don't stick out much. As previous poster stated, u can use them for steps, but just by a toe-hold, maybe to mid-foot. Definitely not as climb in friendly as side steps or even Westin-nerf bars types.

~How difficult is maintanence to things like the brake lines, or frame with welded on rocksliders?

Doesn't affect it whatsoever.

~Box or round tube stock? Which is more useful?

Don't know, mines are round type.

If I had to do it over again, I would have gone bolt-on, unless you know a reputable (i.e. won't rip you off) welder, or weld yourself...
 
People have suggested brands, I'm trying to get information on rocksliders in general so I can make an informed decision.

I still don't understand how useful Kick-outs are on our 4Runners, let alone how useful they are in general.
 
BlackWorksInc said:
People have suggested brands, I'm trying to get information on rocksliders in general so I can make an informed decision.

I still don't understand how useful Kick-outs are on our 4Runners, let alone how useful they are in general.
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Mine don't have a kickout but I wish they did. Not only is a rear kickout located in a spot that's probably most convenient for a step, they help ward off damage in situations like the pic. This would have been easier and safer with a kickout as the front wheels had to be turned to the right.


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04rnr said:
have you thought about Stubbs ? Home
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I have the Stubbs HD-SKOs because I wanted the kickout for the reason JB said as well as easier access to the roof rack. For me they stick out plenty far to be used as steps and I stood on them for over an hour or so while wiring up my roof lights and bolting bike racks up there.

They weld on, but they're also a good bit cheaper than the DO, SW, CBI, White-Knuckle, etc. bolt ons.

I believe the square tubing is a little stronger but unless angled like the rocky road sliders, it's a little easier to get hung up on obstacles like you said.


 
I had Allpro sliders with kickouts on my old Tacoma. They saved me from many trees/rocks, they would kind of pivot you around stuff.
 
I too am looking at sliders. I will not buy anything without the kickout. I have already lost a flair to a tree base.

I am chatting with 4x innovations to make them for the 4th-gen 4runner.....my truck would be the test pig. Might get something going shortly.

Jason
 
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Rock Sliders

Looking for rock sliders for my 3rd Gen 2001 4Runner SR5 that are bolt on, not welded. I understand welding is the route to go, but I'm unable to. Any manufacturers of bolt on rock sliders?
 
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