wallytoo
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i had to dumb it down. too many syllables. two seems to be the limit for the masses.
Second admendment
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i had to dumb it down. too many syllables. two seems to be the limit for the masses.
83Mule
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In Walmart today and prominent signs said ''No ammo sales to anyone under 21''.......unlike shirt and shoes, Walmart signed on with the Government to be a retailer of Guns using Federal Laws as the guideline. If they want to discriminate and ignore the implied contract, they should have their License revoked or face a Lawsuit IMO.:sniper:
Hepar
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I definitely agree that banning sales of certain firearms to anyone under 21 at Walmart and Dick's raises an interesting legal question. And one that I'm sure will be tested in court.
theesotericone
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It'll be tested. It's age discrimination for current Federal gun policy. We all know states can't have any laws that are less stringent then federal standards but they can have laws that are more stringent. So this will be a test as to whether businesses can use those same guidelines legally.
By the time this gets that far though it'll all be a moot point. Federal long gun laws will change to 21 by that time. At least that's how I see this playing out.
83Mule
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Not only should they lose the right to sell ANY firearms unless they honor the contract, but they are denying legal gun owners under the current law the ability to buy ammo which leaves them without a gun in a way. How will they allow legal gun owners under the age of 21 to aquire ammo if the law goes to 21? Are they grandfathered in?:help:
jordanrb81
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So couple things, age discrimination laws are designed around employment, also they are all written with respect to "old people" not young people. there, at least not to my knowledge, has never been a court case won by a 20 year old claiming ageism. So, not sure that will get too far. Second being stricter on gun laws and gun sales once again that I am aware of has never gotten anyone in any kind of trouble (human or business) here is a fact, maybe we should write a law around facts instead of feelings (crazy right?) the brain doesn't fully develop until age 25 in most humans... particularly the males. So maybe we shouldn't let anyone under 25 buy a gun, or ammo? I mean they make you pay higher auto insurance for being under 25... is that discrimination, or actuarial science? it has been mentioned before that in some states a permit is required for gun ownership is that discrimination? I find it interesting that some of these big box stores are basically prematurely implementing "laws" that haven't actually been passed yet, but I am not very sure at all that anyone bringing a lawsuit against them would really get very far.
83Mule
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Constitutional Right versus a privelege ....driving. The contract I speak of is Walmart applying to the Feds to be a retailer of Firearms and agreeing to process the forms and checks required in that process. If the Fed and the State allows 18 year olds to buy a rifle, walmart should not discriminate against those Citizens until the State law or federal law is changed to 18. Or they should get out of the business of selling guns entirely to be fair IMO. Like I said, there are folks who already have a gun that are under 21....what will they do for ammunition if all these retailers decide to go all P.C. to pacify the Libtards?:fencing:
jordanrb81
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I believe what you're referring to is called a populist movement, when companies are pressured into taking action to keep their customers happy. it all comes down to majority, some won't like it (like you) some will. Wal Mart has presumably collected data that shows they are winning more smiles than frowns, remember it's all about the bottom line. Also the Constitution makes no mention of age 18 21 or 25 none would be constitutionally off limits. I get that you're annoyed by the policy and you should absolutely vote with your wallet, the local guys need the business more anyway. that said I don't think there's a real strong legal argument here.
83Mule
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Fair Points all. I guess I feel the Constitution didn't specify an age because it was obvious that any Citizen capable was eligible. As for the age limit now I feel it IS defined by the Feds as 18 for a long gun and by accepting the License to sell, Walmart has agreed to follow those guidelines. Changing them without evidence supporting a verifiable improvement would amount to the pandering you alluded to! And age discrimination! I will vote with my wallet as you suggest!:cheers:
