Shopping for Goodyear Wrangler SA

[4Runner1371]

Anybody know a good place to get some deals on these? I remember reading someone's post that he got his for like $163 a piece from SAM's club. That's a hell of a deal as far as I know. Do sam have install shop or they just sell them?

 

[looksstock]

I just priced these at discount tire yesterday (265/70/17)..regular 189, but they price matched NTB's price of $165...plus, goodyear is offering a $60 rebate at the register (off a set of 4) until end of this year.

I don't need em yet (still have enough tread)..so if you get em (and you upsize em like I'm giong to)..give us a review.

 

[CannondaleMan]

Sam's Club will install them.

The tires may be less expensive, but every thire place adds on charges like roadside protection, installation, lifetime rotation, valves, disposal fees, etc. Call around the shops in the are and get a comparable quote from the shops to get the true price. The difference could be a few hundred or so.

As for the tires....I have them and absolutely love them. Got another thread on them here. One of the other fine folks here posted pics of them on my baby...........

http://www.toyota-4runner.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=32185

I have a couple of reviews that I posted there as well. Just got another storm a couple days ago with 10 inches in 6 hours. Fantastic tires man, truck slid a weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee little bit in 2WD, but kept asking for more in 4WD on unplowed highways with other 4WD sliding all over the place when they were too stupid to realize they should not gun the tires.

Awesome breaking in snow, ice, and rain folks.

 

[Falls]

Sam's Club will install them.

The tires may be less expensive, but every thire place adds on charges like roadside protection, installation, lifetime rotation, valves, disposal fees, etc. Call around the shops in the are and get a comparable quote from the shops to get the true price. The difference could be a few hundred or so.

As for the tires....I have them and absolutely love them. Got another thread on them here. One of the other fine folks here posted pics of them on my baby...........

http://www.toyota-4runner.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=32185

I have a couple of reviews that I posted there as well. Just got another storm a couple days ago with 10 inches in 6 hours. Fantastic tires man, truck slid a weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee little bit in 2WD, but kept asking for more in 4WD on unplowed highways with other 4WD sliding all over the place when they were too stupid to realize they should not gun the tires.

Awesome breaking in snow, ice, and rain folks.

They are severe weather rated , correct ?? (mountain snowflake symbol ) Do you have "P" or "C" rated ?? I had a blast in the snow tonite , but can really tell the Revos have 36k on them . Makes me want to go get a set of GY SA's.

The "P" rated have 13/32 tread depth .
The "C" rated have 16/32 tread depth.
Thinking about stepping up to a "C" for deeper tread depth.

Thoughts?? I drive a lot so they may have better tread for a longer period of time.

 

[CannondaleMan]

Mine are P rated. I don't drive a ridiculous amount and am not doing heavy duty stuff so it does not really matter to me.

They are severe weather rated, and that is why I bought them. I sm not going to do tire change outs every Winter. I can think of better things to do with my time and money.

They have a 40,000 mile warranty or something which is about 4 years of my driving. Personally, I think that these are exceptional tires. Some others may disagree, but that is what makes this country great.

My legal disclaimer is that this is just my opinion, and you should research them first of course, but don't blame me if you do not like them.

 

[benk777]

I think that jumping up to the C rated tires, you will lose a considerable amount of fuel economy. With the P's at 32psi, I went from an average of around 16mpg with the stockers to 10-12mpg with the SA's. I was getting around 300 miles to a full tank, and have dropped down to the low 200s. Not a good feeling. However, yesterday I raised the psi to 42psi, and the tires still handled flawlessly through the storm we had. I actually drove on I-94 at 7pm from Waukesha to Milwaukee and was completely confident the entire way. So I'll give it a week and see what it does for the fuel economy.

I know one thing that was hurting me was that around the time I had the tires installed, the temps dropped. So that's about the time that I started warming her up for 10-15 minutes every morning. I'll let you know if a week or so what my mpg findings are.


Ben

 

[Falls]

I think that jumping up to the C rated tires, you will lose a considerable amount of fuel economy. With the P's at 32psi, I went from an average of around 16mpg with the stockers to 10-12mpg with the SA's. I was getting around 300 miles to a full tank, and have dropped down to the low 200s. Not a good feeling. However, yesterday I raised the psi to 42psi, and the tires still handled flawlessly through the storm we had. I actually drove on I-94 at 7pm from Waukesha to Milwaukee and was completely confident the entire way. So I'll give it a week and see what it does for the fuel economy.

I know one thing that was hurting me was that around the time I had the tires installed, the temps dropped. So that's about the time that I started warming her up for 10-15 minutes every morning. I'll let you know if a week or so what my mpg findings are.


Ben

Yes keep me posted your MPG findings . I've heard that from one other member here who actually had his taken off because of that. I'm not overly thrilled with my Revos at 36k , but damn I'm getting 15-16 mpg in winter and 16-17 in summer and thats city / rural country driving.

 

[4Runner1371]

I just priced these at discount tire yesterday (265/70/17)..regular 189, but they price matched NTB's price of $165...plus, goodyear is offering a $60 rebate at the register (off a set of 4) until end of this year.

I don't need em yet (still have enough tread)..so if you get em (and you upsize em like I'm giong to)..give us a review.

NTB Quoted me for $189 C rating tires...=/

 

[benk777]

Regarding the Sam's Club price, it was an additional $9.50 per tire for installation, balance, and all the extras including roadside hazard, lifetime balance, etc.

I actually had to bring the rig back to Sam's yesterday since my front driver tire was leaking air badly. They checked it and found no leaks, so I insisted they re-do the intall to the rim, which they agreed to do. Just checked the pressure this morning, and no more leak.

Ben

 

[looksstock]

NTB Quoted me for $189 C rating tires...=/

Ok - It could've been Costco or Sam's...the DiscounTire guy was very helpful and looked up 5 diff tire dealers for the SA wrangler prices. I thought it was ntb that had em for 165, but could've been one of the others. :-(

Either way, I'm a bit concerned over the 'perceived' mileage drop. I would expect a loss of a few miles per tank (10-20), but not what Benk777 reported.

 

[4rnr4me]

Sams Club always had the best price as far as I found, and they do the install and alignment for you, if I recall. They took real good care of my ride and my wallet

 

[neo mrosko]

I bought a set of Wrangler SA from Goodyear to replace the Wrangler RTS on my 98 4runner and had a very hard time finding 4 tires with a road force variance under 20 lbs. I think I went through 8 tires and many repeated visits to Goodyear and eventually sought out a 3rd party tire service dealer who had the most up to date balancer and gave me an honest print out of the tire variance numbers. Goodyear kept trying to tell me the vibrations were something other than the tires.
Also my fuel economy dropped about 15 - 20% after switching to the SA's.

The tires ride fairly well and have good snow traction though they hydroplane allot more in sloppy highway conditions than the Wrangler RTS did.

I highly recommend purchasing tires from a dealer with an up to date road force variance balancer and trained techs who will give you honest before and after road force variance print outs.

 

[4Runner1371]

Hmm..NTB's doing some specials on tires until the end of the year...I'm gonna check it out on the 18th and get back to you guys. I want new shoes before I hit another snow storm with my near bald dunlops. =P

P.S. That's whole lot of MPG drop with SA. I know they are heavier but shouldn't be more than 1-2mpg drop. Plus I think the bigger diameter makes the MPG indicator on the runner confused.

 

[neo mrosko]

Believe me, I've had a 3 to 4 mpg drop with the SA.s compared to the RTS. This also may be partially caused by higher than normal highway driving speeds. Since I installed a good radar detector and lazer jammer I commonly drive a good bit faster weather permitting. I think that the more aggressive tread is also partially the cause, I'm not sure but there's definitely been a significant drop in my mpg.

 

[CannondaleMan]

I also had a 2-3 mpg drop with these. I do not calculate it out on paper, just go on the truck computer. I did not buy the truck or the tires for mileage, I bought them for functionality - however they are still better than most of the other SUVs and light trucks out there even with the GY SAs on it.

 

[4Runner1371]

Yeah...don't freakout by the mpg indicator. Remember bigger diameter has less RPM. Anyways...local ntb just quoted me $220 for a P rated SA (Yeah! Right!) and I don't have SAM's car nor do I need one. I'm just gonna order it from Tirerack and have them ship it to one of their recommended installer (Luckily there's a 5 star one 4 miles from where I live). $155 P rated tire plus $70 2-day shipping. Only $168 for C rated if anyone wondered. I think C rated might mess with my mpg more since it weighs like 4lbs more than P rated. *shrug*

 

[neo mrosko]

I know I'm actually using more gas forr the same distance traveled with the SA's 16" tires.

I think I paid around $185 from Goodyear, my total after taxes came out to around $800.00

The next time I buy tires it'll be from a dealer who owns and knows how to use an up to date road force variance balancer, I especially recommend this with the SA's on a 4runner or Tacoma. If you get two or three tires that have a high variance and vibrate how much money and time are you going to have to spend shipping them back and forth to tire rack and the service tech?

I'd be sure that the tech will give you a print out for road force variance on all four wheels.

 

[4Runner1371]

What exactly is the Road Force Balancer? Is that different from regular balancing? That sux about mpg but it's to be expected. Still kick ass though. Makes you wanna pour sand and snow all over your backyard and driver over 'em!

 

[neo mrosko]

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See;

http://www.gadgetonline.com/Vibration.htm


http://www.gsp9700.com/



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[Falls]

Why would they be so bad on gas ?

I really want / need to get tires . Revos are very little tread left after 37k mile's , at least it looks that way visually , I need to measure on I got a tool to do it with.