Will_4R
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I just got a set of 4 Goodyear Wrangler Silent Armor in size P265/70R17 installed. Fountain Tire is having a 4 for 3 sale on this model so I went for it. At some point I will pick up a spare since I got the last 4 in stock this past Saturday. I am coming off the Michelin Cross Terrain with about 40% tread remaining in P265/65R17.
What I was looking for in a tire:
An all terrain tire for a healthy mix of long distance highway driving and offroading. I take lots of long road trips to the southern US (20-30 hours each way) and to Alberta and central/northern BC. I need a tire that is safe and manageable on mountain highways in snow and rain. The Mountain Snowflake symbol is important to me because not only is it recognized and required in some places, but it guarantees at least adequate winter performance. Wet weather is something I encounter a lot on the coast so rain performance is a top priority. I do a lot of gravel road driving (almost every weekend) and enjoy occasional offroading on more challenging trails. I use chains a lot winter so chain fitment is important. I went with a P-series to keep the weight down and maximize highway safety and handling. My experience with the P-series Cross Terrains is that they provided adequate durability for offroading. I always have a full size matching spare tire, tire plug kit and compressor.
Other than a bunch of driving around the city running errands this weekend I have not done much driving on them so can't give a full review yet.
Fit:
I have no lift and the tire fits without rubbing when the truck is stationary. Turning in the parking lot doesn't rub, but I got a bit of rubbing when braking while turning a corner. Not sure but I think it was the mud flap. No biggy for now, but I will want to address it. I am not overly surprised considering my stock tires rubbed in some turning situations that compressed the front end. The tire comes close the metal that connects the upper ball joint to the wheel. I can't remember how close it was with the original tires, so I can't compare. Anyway, not close enough to rub, but not much room for chains either. (I didn't even try putting chains on the front with the stock tires because things looked tight.) The back fits well with lots of room to spare for chains and full flex/articulation.
Ride:
Ride feel fine, not noticeably better or worse as far as I can tell. I ran the old tires at 32-35 psi. These are at 38. I will probably drop that down a bit, but we'll see.
Handling:
I don't feel any more sidewall flex or less stability, but the tires feel a little squirmy when steering compared to the cross terrains.
Braking and accelerating:
If there is a loss of either (technically there is should be) it is barely noticeable.
Noise:
Hard to tell. The Cross Terrains were getting a little louder than they were when new. I am not sure if these are really louder that the worn Cross Terrains, but if they are it isn't enough to notice or matter. I am pretty sure they are a bit louder than the Cross Terrains were when they were new.
Fuel economy:
Too soon to tell. Heavier tire with more rolling resistance will worsen it, but the taller tire and higher effecting gearing might balance that out.
Look:
More aggressive than the Cross Terrains but not extreme. I like it.
Siping:
Although the sipes don't appear to be the full tread depth, I think the centre of the sipes goes deeper than the edges. Either way, the sipes go more than half the dread depth. I expect to lose performance in winter and rain when they wear down past ~60%.
And now for some pics:
What I was looking for in a tire:
An all terrain tire for a healthy mix of long distance highway driving and offroading. I take lots of long road trips to the southern US (20-30 hours each way) and to Alberta and central/northern BC. I need a tire that is safe and manageable on mountain highways in snow and rain. The Mountain Snowflake symbol is important to me because not only is it recognized and required in some places, but it guarantees at least adequate winter performance. Wet weather is something I encounter a lot on the coast so rain performance is a top priority. I do a lot of gravel road driving (almost every weekend) and enjoy occasional offroading on more challenging trails. I use chains a lot winter so chain fitment is important. I went with a P-series to keep the weight down and maximize highway safety and handling. My experience with the P-series Cross Terrains is that they provided adequate durability for offroading. I always have a full size matching spare tire, tire plug kit and compressor.
Other than a bunch of driving around the city running errands this weekend I have not done much driving on them so can't give a full review yet.
Fit:
I have no lift and the tire fits without rubbing when the truck is stationary. Turning in the parking lot doesn't rub, but I got a bit of rubbing when braking while turning a corner. Not sure but I think it was the mud flap. No biggy for now, but I will want to address it. I am not overly surprised considering my stock tires rubbed in some turning situations that compressed the front end. The tire comes close the metal that connects the upper ball joint to the wheel. I can't remember how close it was with the original tires, so I can't compare. Anyway, not close enough to rub, but not much room for chains either. (I didn't even try putting chains on the front with the stock tires because things looked tight.) The back fits well with lots of room to spare for chains and full flex/articulation.
Ride:
Ride feel fine, not noticeably better or worse as far as I can tell. I ran the old tires at 32-35 psi. These are at 38. I will probably drop that down a bit, but we'll see.
Handling:
I don't feel any more sidewall flex or less stability, but the tires feel a little squirmy when steering compared to the cross terrains.
Braking and accelerating:
If there is a loss of either (technically there is should be) it is barely noticeable.
Noise:
Hard to tell. The Cross Terrains were getting a little louder than they were when new. I am not sure if these are really louder that the worn Cross Terrains, but if they are it isn't enough to notice or matter. I am pretty sure they are a bit louder than the Cross Terrains were when they were new.
Fuel economy:
Too soon to tell. Heavier tire with more rolling resistance will worsen it, but the taller tire and higher effecting gearing might balance that out.
Look:
More aggressive than the Cross Terrains but not extreme. I like it.
Siping:
Although the sipes don't appear to be the full tread depth, I think the centre of the sipes goes deeper than the edges. Either way, the sipes go more than half the dread depth. I expect to lose performance in winter and rain when they wear down past ~60%.
And now for some pics:
