Sitting in my 3rd-Gen - Take T4R OFFLINE for SOPA Day 1/18/2011

BrianSD_42

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Thought you all might want to know. Yes I know this there is an off-topic section but no-one goes there. This is important, the very existence of the internet is at stake. T4R.org is at stake.

If you have a 3rd-Gen you might want to read this, comment and put it back to the top.


* Should T4R. org join with Reddit and the other sites?

* What do you think?



January 18th is SOPA Day


This is not a joke. If you don't know what SOPA (& Protect IP) Acts are you need to know now.

They will destroy T4R as you know it. Reddit, Wikipedia and others are going offline. T4R should join.

Jan 18th has been designated SOPA day. It means that the site must go dark and post info on how to contact congress.

Whether you are liberal or conservative it does not matter. This is about the internet & future of T4R.

O8ama will sign the bill if it passes, don't kid yourself.​



What is SOPA Day?





BigFishAllDay put up a good breakdown ... read it then pick up the phone!


BigFishAllDay said:
For anybody who actually wants to excercise their rights by speaking out against the bill to the parties who can do something about it, here are some resources:


Call your Congressman

Office of the Clerk of the U.S. House of Representatives - Member Telephone Directory



Call your Senator

U.S. Senate: Senators Home



Send some e-letters

https://action.eff.org/o/9042/p/dia/action/public/?action_KEY=8173

Contact Congress - OpenCongress

https://writerep.house.gov/writerep/welcome.shtml



************ And do some background reading :boxer: ************

Get the basics down > Stop Online Piracy Act - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Read this > The Definitive Post On Why SOPA And Protect IP Are Bad, Bad Ideas | Techdirt

Then do a quick review > How SOPA would affect you: FAQ | Privacy Inc. - CNET News

Growing Chorus of Opposition to "Stop Online Piracy Act" | Center for Democracy & Technology

https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2011/12/internet-inventors-warn-against-sopa-and-pipa



And this is a good link to check out:

Who in Congress Supports SOPA and PIPA/PROTECT-IP? | SOPA Opera | ProPublica



PS... I found all of this information here > craigslist | about > SOPA

I simply wanted to place it in this thread so that concerned parties can take appropriate action.
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I am working with, along with 38 million other members of LoL (Google it) at the prevention of it's passing... Many others are as well.
 
Yep Brian, you are right. I don't know how much other members realize how much is at stake here. I do try to banter with ya now and then in the off topic section.

The funny thing is that the bill's credo proclaims that it will give rise to creative and unfettered innovation so to speak, yet if the bill passes both chambers, I stand to believe that without this site and others, those who seek information, whether credible or not, won't be able to find it. Thus the bill creates an encumbrance to higher learning and thinking, exactly the opposite of what it purports to do.

Those companies state that jobs are being lost to piracy may be correct, but if jobs are to be created, who is betting that they will be in America? Not me.

A friend of mine who is a DC page said to expect a vote by both chambers before summer recess.
 
The very least we can do is keep this at the top.

And the second very least is call your reps.

To the top!
 
Lots of info on craigslist about it too.

craigslist | about > SOPA

Corporate supporters of HR3261 (SOPA) and S968 (PIPA) demand the ability to take down any web site that affects their profits -- without due process or judicial oversight -- in the name of combating "online piracy." Hoping you won't notice or care, quite a few of our Public Servants want to give them that right.

Believe it or not, Monster Cable (remember "Monster Park"?) considers craigslist a "rogue site" for blacklisting and takedown under PIPA - apparently 2nd hand sales of stereo cables by CL users is reducing Monster's sales of new cables. (reddit).

SOPA/PIPA authors and supporters insist they're only after foreign piracy sites, but Internet Engineers understand this is an attempt to impose "Big Brother" control over our Internet, complete with DNS hijacking and censoring search results.
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These two proposed laws will do the following:

1) Criminalize under Federal Law the downloading, uploading OR linking of copyrighted content

2) Allow for the government to order a website "taken off the internet" without the right to have a JUDGE or jury trial.

3) Allow for individuals to BANNED from use of the internet via a blacklist again without the right to have a JUDGE or jury trial.

4) Posting a link (youTube, FaceBook, T4R ect) to an article, song, movie on a website will be ILLEGAL and the individual can be prosecuted AND the website can be taken offline.

TO THE TOP !!! :girl:
 
Another way of putting it is this:


If you upload or post a link to Michael Jackson's music, you will get more jail time than the man that KILLED HIM.


These two laws are very unpopular but they may still pass, your voice does count. Please call your congressman / congresswoman.


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Calling and raising awareness will stop this.

Gottta remember to keep this at the top for a LONG time.
 
Back to the top. I've called, emailed, and hard copy letter-ed my representatives. I also am in the process of emailing links to my friends asking them to do the same.

As far as the blackout, bet it's the most productive day I have at work all week...
 
As far as the blackout, bet it's the most productive day I have at work all week...
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Yes and the blackout would in theory divert to a page with details about SOPA & Protect-IP as well as contact info for members of congress.

Even if T4R stays up that day everyone can help by calling congress.

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- John Boehner when ObamaCare looked dead: "It's not dead enough for me"!
SOPA isn't exactly dead, just been put on the shelf for the moment, however PIPA is far from that..
 
Make no mistake, those in charge of the US government want more control of the internet and will not stop until they have it. Whether it be sopa, pipa, or any other acronym, we citizens must stand up for our rights, which are being whittled away little by little. Whether you agree with me or not, it's happening. The state of GA is considering passing legislation taxing all commerce done over the internet as are several other states. What comes next?

Think about the uprisings we saw in the north African countries and areas in the middle east last summer - those were largely organized day to day though the Internet and cellular networks. Iran 2 years ago I believe shut down access to the Internet for its citizens for 2 to 3 days due to political uprising. China largely censors what it's citizens can view on the internet. I don't need uncle Sam telling me what I can and cannot read. Think it can't happen here on our soil? Perhaps not today, but with the passage of these or similar legislative directives it can and will.

Wake up people. It's happening. We can stop it.
 
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Must be nice to be a Comcast lobbyist. Using your services right now watching the Daily show.
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Lets keep it politically neutral as possible. I think all common folks whether liberal, conservative or independent would pretty much hate this law if they actually read it.

Daily Show does = awesome though :)
 
Think about the uprisings we saw in the north African countries and areas in the middle east last summer - those were largely organized day to day though the Internet and cellular networks. Iran 2 years ago I believe shut down access to the Internet for its citizens for 2 to 3 days due to political uprising. China largely censors what it's citizens can view on the internet. I don't need uncle Sam telling me what I can and cannot read.
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Yes but the major difference with regard to this thread is that "SOPA Day" is only a volunteer protest where site owners decide on their own to participate.

I just want everyone to express what they think T4R should do and then call their congressman about these two horrible bills.
 
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brianemc2_42 said:
Yes but the major difference with regard to this thread is that "SOPA Day" is only a volunteer protest where site owners decide on their own to participate.

I just want everyone to express what they think T4R should do and then call their congressman about these two horrible bills.
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Agreed and understood. My post was a worst case scenario as in X can happen 10 or less/more steps after if sopa is passed. Let's stop this particular bill in its tracks with notices to our representatives.
 
Just figured I'd chime in, even though I'm Canadian.

I along with my friends have discussed SOPA quite a bit, and are also appalled by the lack of foresight and harm this bill can/will cause if implemented. I really hope you all stand up for your rights and fight the bill with every option you have.

So far, the worst we've had to deal with up here is our major Telecom companies trying to force a limitation on bandwidth, and charging vastly increased rates to have higher levels of bandwidth. This was there way of trying to combat things like Netflix, iTunes etc, that were cutting into their satellite and cable TV offerings.

We managed to petition the government to stop such a bill from passing thankfully, and the same group called openmedia has moved on to try and stop a similar move being made against cell phones.

Keep fighting the good fight, because if SOPA goes down, I can't imagine the damage it will do to not only your populace in the form of freedom, but also what it will do to your economy. Popular sites are already pulling out of american webhosting services.
 
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