Sloppy runner - advise needed

Craist

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I could use some help figuring out a problem I am having with my runner. It has 220,000 kms on it. It is a 1998 Ltd 4x4.

Currently I have replaced steering rack and bushings, lower control arm bushings, camber bolts, installed sonoran steel 1.2 lift, 285/75/16 duratracs, replace all bearings, seals, brakes in the rear, upgraded to tundra brakes in front, wheel alignment, valve cover, timing belt, water pump, all fluids, and maintenance items. I have spent more on parts and repairs than I paid for the vehicle.

When I bought it a year ago (208,000 kms) it was solid. I wheeled it (stock) for 7 months and the steering became sloppy, had bump steer issues, pulled hard while driving, pulled the opposite way while braking. It got to the point where it would jump 4"-6" on the road when I hit a bump. These problems became more serious as time went on.

Right now (after all repairs) when driving on the street it feels pretty good. Drives straight, no pulling, when I hit a bump it stays straight and feels good. Soon as I take it on gravel / dirt and hit bumps, the steering wheel still feels sloppy, shakes, and bounces around a bit on the road. It doesn't feel solid.

There is a very minor leak from front diff (think the seal is cracked) After 2 months I still haven't had to add fluid. Since I put the tires on last week the Tcase has developed a leak. It is leaking quite a bit. It is the front shaft output seal that is leaking. I don't think that can cause my problem. The Tcase leak is getting fixed this week.

I have removed my front sway bar 6 months ago. I have wheeled it and driven on road and there wasn't much difference. Yes a little more "tipsy" feeling and liked the way it felt while wheeling. But it still felt solid.

I haven't wheeled it since the lift was installed (about 2-3 months ago).

What else could be causing the sloppy feeling while off road? Everywhere I read how people feel the Sonoran Steel lift made their vehicle feel more solid, handled bumps better, etc. What does your 4runners feel like after these modifications compared to stock? Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Sorry for the novel

Thanks,
 
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Your steering wheel has a slip joint that becomes loose and greatly enhances steering rack play particularly off road.

You can remove the steering wheel and shaft in 30 minutes, find the joint, and tack weld it or drill and install a 1/4 x 2" roll pin.

It's a common and well known problem. You'll know this is your problem if you are getting plenty of rattle right at the steering wheel when off road. If you are also getting it on road, you may have more problems.

Diagnose and Fix Steering Play/Rattle - Page 2 - TTORA Forum
 
Thanks so much for that advice.

It worked! No more issues while on gravel / dirt.

I checked the universal joints on the steering shaft as well and those where fine, so was the tilt mechanism plastic ball joint.
 
Thanks so much for that advice.

It worked! No more issues while on gravel / dirt.

I checked the universal joints on the steering shaft as well and those where fine, so was the tilt mechanism plastic ball joint.

Glad to hear it! I just hold my steering wheel tightly :p
This repair is definitely on "the list"....but what isnt? Lol
 

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