So who has a 4cyl Gen5 ?

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Interesting. It's on the Toyota website and you can build one. It didn't make sense to me anyways. 4cyl gets 18/23mpg and 6 cyl is rated at 17/23mpg. Go figure...
 
Interesting. It's on the Toyota website and you can build one. It didn't make sense to me anyways. 4cyl gets 18/23mpg and 6 cyl is rated at 17/23mpg. Go figure...
I think the reason for the 4cylinder is marketing. It allows Toyota and their dealers to advertise that the 4Runner starts at the low, low price of $27500.

The dealers won't stock them, and no one would likely actually buy one if they drove it.
 
Also to meet stricter CAFE standards.

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It would have been better to use the D4D 3.0 turbo diesel from the Toyota Fortuner instead of the 4-cyl. You could probably get the D4D 3.0 with 4WD since it has useable torque.
 
Also to meet stricter CAFE standards.

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It would have been better to use the D4D 3.0 turbo diesel from the Toyota Fortuner instead of the 4-cyl. You could probably get the D4D 3.0 with 4WD since it has useable torque.

CAFE is based on what is actually sold versus what is offered. Basically, if they sell only 1 4cyl for every 49 6cyl (assuming all 49 are 4WD & using highway mpg ratings) instead of selling all 50 as 4WD 6cyls, the fleet economy is 22.019mpg instead of 22.000mpg. If you don't sell many of the 4cyls, it doesn't help your fleet mpg very much.
 
I'd be surprised if anyone buys the 4cyl at all since there is no benefit to the fuel economy (or at least a negligible one). I still think that they should have done something with the 4cyl to make it more attractive, like some incentive. If the 4cyl was the only way to get a manual transmission, I would actually pick a 4cyl manual over a V6 auto. That would be the only reason I would ever consider the new 4cyl 4Runner.
 
Also to meet stricter CAFE standards.
But it doesn't help CAFE fleet mileage. It gets 1 mpg better than the V6. And CAFE fleet mileage is based on units sold x mileage. Since they won't sell many, and the ones they do sell will only get 1 mpg better, it will have almost no impact on fleet mileage.
 
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If they bring over a diesel, i will sell my 4R for it.
I would, too, but they won't. Toyota was working on a diesel for the Tundra. They canceled the program. GM and Ford were also working on diesels for the Silverado and F150. They canceled their programs as well.

If Toyota figures they can't sell enough diesel Tundras to make money, then they surely don't think they can sell enough diesel 4Runners to make money.
 
But it doesn't help CAFE fleet mileage. It gets 1 mpg better than the V6. And CAFE fleet mileage is based on units sold x mileage. Since they won't sell many, and the ones they do sell will only get 1 mpg better, it will have almost no impact on fleet mileage.

:iagree: That's why the Prius is so important to Toyota.
 

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