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RunnerUp
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well if you havent seen any 3rd gen's with it done, you havent searched very hard. i contemplated doing this to mine, but to be honest with you, i havent even broken my IFS yet, and dont really think i will be in a position to break anything on my IFS. im not going to ask why you would do this, as im sure you have your reasons, but be prepared to spend between 6-10k to do it right, now before i go posting pictures of other peoples trucks, would you do a leaf spring conversion or would you want to attempt the coil spring conversion? what upgrades to your rear suspension do you plan on making in order to level out the flex? if you havent figured that much out, then you have a long road ahead of you, and perhaps we can convince a moderator to create a subforum so we can accumulate AS MUCH INFO AS POSSIBLE on this in one place. so, do you want some pictures of a leaf over or coil over?
fourwd1
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People SAS their Runners, just not nearly as many as Tacos.
I don't think many owners of newer high $ Runners want to subject them to the kind of wheeling that would justify a SAS.
Doing a SAS on older 1st and 2nd gen Runners is more common.
And if you wanted to do it, it'd be more like $1-3K,depending on your fabrication and metalworking skills and equipment.
I don't think many owners of newer high $ Runners want to subject them to the kind of wheeling that would justify a SAS.
Doing a SAS on older 1st and 2nd gen Runners is more common.
And if you wanted to do it, it'd be more like $1-3K,depending on your fabrication and metalworking skills and equipment.
RunnerUp
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1-3k??!!?!?!?!
i want to know where you are going to find the parts alone for that cheap!
i have researched for months on end and the cheapest i have ever seen has been like 6300 and that was on a taco!
seriously though... where do you find your parts? for 1-3k, ill do it tomorrow!!!!
i want to know where you are going to find the parts alone for that cheap!
i have researched for months on end and the cheapest i have ever seen has been like 6300 and that was on a taco!
seriously though... where do you find your parts? for 1-3k, ill do it tomorrow!!!!
RunnerUp said:
Now, I don't know about $1k, but I've heard that $2k is about right. It obviously depends on if you get the work done for you, or you do it yourself. I don't know where people get their parts from, but I know for $2k you can go long travel or SAS. Call All-pro and see what they use. For example, this page at All Pro show kits for $1200 with a side note mentioning that you can get axles for $250 to $350.
All pro is just one of the shops that do this too. I'm sure you can find more if you search.
And to the original poster, here is a SAS'd 3rd Gen off the top of my head:
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Runnin
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I was figuring somewhere around 3gs. I have all the equipment, so fabrication is not a problem. I was thinking about going with leaf springs front and rear if that will work. And no I have not done alot of research on it, but I just hadnt ever seen a 3rd generation with solid axle up front before. I thought maybe there was a certain reason to it.
RunnerUp
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well im going to stick to the thought that it cost around 6k for doing a leaf over conversion, and the reason for that is because of this excel spreadsheet someone did as they SASed there tacoma...
http://www.members.cox.net/fourbychef/SAS/Expenses.xls
the buildup pics are here
http://www.members.cox.net/k-ton/sas.htm
if you choose to go this route, i would say expect to pay more than 6k!
but if you really think you can do it for 2k please make a write up as i would love to know how to do it for cheaper!
ive been discouraged because of the price, i have checked all pro's stuff out, but had a bad experience with them once so dont really want to go back
ive heard of bentup.com but those only include a few of the pieces of hardware required for a full conversion that wont fall apart on the trail.
now you have intrigued me some more and now to see what price i can come up with myself....
http://www.members.cox.net/fourbychef/SAS/Expenses.xls
the buildup pics are here
http://www.members.cox.net/k-ton/sas.htm
if you choose to go this route, i would say expect to pay more than 6k!
but if you really think you can do it for 2k please make a write up as i would love to know how to do it for cheaper!
ive been discouraged because of the price, i have checked all pro's stuff out, but had a bad experience with them once so dont really want to go back
ive heard of bentup.com but those only include a few of the pieces of hardware required for a full conversion that wont fall apart on the trail.
now you have intrigued me some more and now to see what price i can come up with myself....
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RunnerUp said:well im going to stick to the thought that it cost around 6k for doing a leaf over conversion, and the reason for that is because of this excel spreadsheet someone did as they SASed there tacoma...
http://www.members.cox.net/fourbychef/SAS/Expenses.xls
the buildup pics are here
http://www.members.cox.net/k-ton/sas.htm
if you choose to go this route, i would say expect to pay more than 6k!
but if you really think you can do it for 2k please make a write up as i would love to know how to do it for cheaper!
Remember. This guy also included the price of 4 35inch tires and the cost to do a regearing for his rear gears. I would think that if you are SAS'ing and are already lifted, some of this is not needed. He added the cost of doing an entire lift rather than just a front SAS.
To show your side of things, that it costs 6g's +. Here's a thread on TTORA talking about the cost of SAS'ing tacomas.
http://www.tacomaterritory.com/forum/showthread.php?t=21812
http://www.tacomaterritory.com/forum/showthread.php?t=21812
RunnerUp
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ok, so take out the cost of new tires.... -800, and assuming you are fortunate to have found a front axle with a locker/gears that match your rear axle gears, you might save your self another 1k, thats still 4200, but then you get back to the fact that you have to alter everything when doing an SAS, i mean sure, if you have planned it all out you might be able to keep your rear lift, but you will prob. change it down the road anyways, but im still saying, SAS is not a cheap option, esp. for someone that hasnt broken anything on their IFS yet, yeah it looks cool and is a nice conversation piece, but unneeded until you break some heavy duty stuff. trust me, if i could find a way to get it down to 3-4k, i would most likely do it, but i havent been able to do that yet
Runnin
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Thanks for the input, I still want to do it even if it does cost me around 6k... I know alot of money, but the end look will deff be worth it... And if theres another way to fit 35s or 36s w/out body lift, then please let me know.
But as far as axles, I have front and rear Dana 35s... If those arent going to work, Let me know. I dont have the lockers lined up yet...
But as far as axles, I have front and rear Dana 35s... If those arent going to work, Let me know. I dont have the lockers lined up yet...
RunnerUp
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well if you want 36" mud tires then yes, the dana 35 is too weak, but besides that, the axle from the waggy basically drops right in after you have modified everything else, if we can get a moderator in here to make this a subforum or a sticky then i will start posting all the information i have found as of yet, and its ALOT of stuff, reasons to do it, reasons not to do it, relative cost, parts, ideas'.... the list goes on for days, but yes, you want the waggy axle for sure a dana 35 is only able to handle a 33-35, but thats not with hard wheeling, if your going to sink all that money into your 4runner, you dont want to break an axle, and there are other reasons for it also...