some camping questions????

As far as pocket camping items goes:

- what sort of pocket saw were you looking at? Don't bother with the wire ones- I think someone mentioned a hunting bone saw, which is pretty much all I use
- have you looked into Sawyer squeeze water filters? they are the best, most compact filters, bar none.

Are you bringing a stove or cooking over the campfire?
i was looking at the wire pocket saw, but they dont look like they work.
ive never used a bone saw, but i will look into them. Will also look at the sawyer water filter. The cooking we will be doing will be over campfire. just planned on bringing a small grill grate.
 
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Well, it's finally here, we are heading out this friday morning.
I also got a tag for mountain lion just in case, was only $15, so I might just come back with a trophy. This will be my first time i officially will be able to
make proper use of my rola roof rack. For target practice and protection purposes, i will have my S&W M&P40, our break action single barrel 20 gauge,
my new remington 783 bolt action 30-06, my daughters boyfriendwill have his .243, and of course my sons bb gun. Hopefully we will be eating rainbow trout for dinner. I'm in the middle of hunter safety and eductation classes with my son(extra bonus point for me) so it will be a good time to execute some of the fundamentals he has learned in class.

As you can tell, I'm pretty pumped and ready to roll.:banana:
 
, i will have my S&W M&P40, our break action single barrel 20 gauge,
my new remington 783 bolt action 30-06, my daughters boyfriendwill have his .243, and of course my sons bb gun.

Seriously? :usa2:

I'm not against firearms on the trail - per say - but is this really necessary?

I mean 4 firearms and a BB gun lol. For a camping and hiking trip ....

I grew up in California, camping and backpacking all my life. I can't think of any good reason to bring 4 firearms on a family camping trip. 1 maybe but 4 is like :juggle:

Hopefully we will be eating rainbow trout for dinner.

Are you bringing a fishing pole or just dynamite for the fish? :caked: Just kidding
 
Wishing you guys a safe and fun trip.

My 2 cents...

I... i havent camped in a remote dangerous area in a long time. Mostly overnighters at the lake or close to civilization.
Civilization is more dangerous than the wilderness.

DO NOT TETHER OR ROPE UP!


Tethering done properly is called "Belaying". That's how mountaineers protect each other. Rope and/or belayer are anchored while the "lead" climber attempts a perilous move. IF lead slips, rope controlled by "belayer" will catch his fall.

It may be too late now for you trip, but in the future, remember that an 11 year old can be trained how to belay. Father and son can belay each other and, therefore, protect each other.

You may not plan to go through trails where a belay is necessary, but in case you get into a bind, the technique is good to know.

...... 1 maybe but 4 ...

Concur with Brian_SD
 
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Seriously? :usa2:

I'm not against firearms on the trail - per say - but is this really necessary?

I mean 4 firearms and a BB gun lol. For a camping and hiking trip ....

I grew up in California, camping and backpacking all my life. I can't think of any good reason to bring 4 firearms on a family camping trip. 1 maybe but 4 is like :juggle:



Are you bringing a fishing pole or just dynamite for the fish? :caked: Just kidding

Lol, a closer read will explain for target practice and protection.
I'm bringing 4 rods as well. Dynamite is against the law and just not good
Sportsmanship. Jk.
 
Civilization is more dangerous than the wilderness.




Tethering is properly called "Belaying". Done properly, that's how mountaineers protect each other. Rope and/or belayer are anchored while the "lead" climber attempts a perilous move. IF lead slips, rope controlled by "belayer" will catch his fall.

It may be too late now for you trip, but in the future, remember that an 11 year old can be trained how to belay. Father and son can belay each other and, therefore, protect each other.

You may not plan to go through trails where a belay is necessary, but in case you get into a bind, the technique is good to know.



Concur with Brian_SD
Thanks for the info,i decided to not "belay", as it should not be necessary.
Most the firearms will be for target practice,but i will have my handgun on the trail and
The shotgun in the tent.
 
Dynamite!! That's too bad I've always wanted to fish like crocodile Dundee!

Not sure about the cell service where you are camping but there are some cool apps for locating stars and planets and such, being the desert I'm sure you will see a crap load of stars!

Have a blast!
 
Dynamite!! That's too bad I've always wanted to fish like crocodile Dundee!

Not sure about the cell service where you are camping but there are some cool apps for locating stars and planets and such, being the desert I'm sure you will see a crap load of stars!

Have a blast!

Now thats a knife mate!!!! lol

Im pretty sure cell reception will be nonexistent, but we will definately
be doing star gazing at night. Its crazy how much more stars you can
see out in the middle of the forest in comparison to the city.
 
Thanks for the info,i decided to not "belay", as it should not be necessary.
Most the firearms will be for target practice,but i will have my handgun on the trail and
The shotgun in the tent.

im not sure about these guys, but I don't consider 4 to be a lot.
that is fairly standard. im not sure which I will want to shoot, so I bring a few.
 
Lol...I said desert but clearly remember you now talking about going to the forest... It still amazes me ever time when I go to the woods or desert how many stars you can actually see.
 
Well it was an eventful trip to say the least. It was about a 2 hr drive to
get to the trail head of our desired location, plus an additional 30-40 min
off road to our camping spot, which we had to change because they no longer allowed camping on the spot i had always camped at. Had a little sprinkling on the way up. After setting up camp, we headed to the highest peak where you can see all the major mountain ranges in Arizona literally hundreds of miles away. At this location was also some stone age furniture that is pretty cool to see. From there we headed back to camp and got ready
for to do some fishing to finish out the day before dinner. Sadly, the streams were so low that we were unable to fish. We ended up back at camp and did some nature walking and target practice around camp. After steak dinner and
having fun around the campfire we hit the sack, this is where it took an interesting turn of events. We ended up being stalked by mountain lion throughout the night, seeing those glowing green cat eyes at between 20 40
yards is pretty crazy. We fired a warning shot hoping to scare them off since it was pitch black and we werent sure of our background we didnt want to fire direct shots at them unless they came too close and endangered our lives. We ended up taking turns keeping watch throughout the night as they wouldnt leave our camp alone. Looks like all the firearms i brought were very much needed.:biggrin1:

The next days light was greeted with a smile of relief. After breakfast we headed out to hike a very steep slate rock ridden mountain. The top was only about 100 yards up, but took us about an hour to summit. At the top are indigenous ruins. I was the first to reach and unfortunately the only to see the ruins. Our hike took our 2nd turn of events, my son who was right behind me stepped into a bee's nest which was under some rock. He was immediately attacked by the bees, we all got 5-10 stings, but my son received over 50. I immediately commanded our party to quickly head back down as the bees were chasing us. It was a dangerous situation getting down that mountain quickly and safely. We headed back into closest town , doing what we could with first aid kits while also trying to get service for 911.
They met us about halfway which was about 45 min after the incident.
Spent about 5 hours at the hospital. Thankfully he was not allergic or it would most likely have been fatal. My trooper of a son wanted to finish out the camping trip. So after getting the ok from the Dr., we headed back to camp. We finished the daylight out with some survival training. That night the mountain lions were non existent, very quite night just some elk bugling.

After packing up camp and leaving it cleaner than we found it, we headed for our last hike. Since we basically lost a day because of the bees, we were unable to hike to the canyon i wanted to show everyone. we hiked to the bottom of the waterfall and spent some time down there. I built a stone pile at the top of the water fall in memory of my best friends father who showed me this camping spot and who passed away a couple years back. The waterfall was gorgeous and cold, we all rinsed off the last few days.
Last we found a good spot for some longer distance target practice with the rifles and finished off the trip with some mexican food at one of our favorite hometown spots.

Pics to come.
 
Anyone use or consider a high end ice chest?

I pulled the trigger on a Perma-Chill from Gander Mountain. They were displayed side by side the Yeti's - which they're basically a direct rip off of. Spent a while comparing the two in the size I wanted and felt the Gander Mountain a better deal with a few nicer features.

Still felt a bit dumb to pay $250 for a "cooler" but no sh!t it kept a 10lb block of ice for nine days and beers and food stored inside plenty cold. I know my Coleman wouldn't touch that.

I guess these high end ice chests are somewhat new since Yeti introduced in '06...but from what I can tell - worth it.

Eta: typo on that thumbs down emoticon subject whatever't'f.
 
not much of a camper but a cooling product i found may have use among the camping crowd

i used to work in shipping and receiving and had to deal with a lot of frozen products, and they needed to stay cold for up to 24 hours at a time, so we used something called re-freez-r-brix. they honest to god will stay totally frozen for 24 hours, no problem, and we keep anything cold without issue, highly recommend

http://www.amazon.com/Polar-Tech-Re...id=1411434824&sr=8-2&keywords=re+freez+r+brix
 
Well it was an eventful trip to say the least. It was about a 2 hr drive to
get to the trail head of our desired location, plus an additional 30-40 min
off road to our camping spot, which we had to change because they no longer allowed camping on the spot i had always camped at. Had a little sprinkling on the way up. After setting up camp, we headed to the highest peak where you can see all the major mountain ranges in Arizona literally hundreds of miles away. At this location was also some stone age furniture that is pretty cool to see. From there we headed back to camp and got ready
for to do some fishing to finish out the day before dinner. Sadly, the streams were so low that we were unable to fish. We ended up back at camp and did some nature walking and target practice around camp. After steak dinner and
having fun around the campfire we hit the sack, this is where it took an interesting turn of events. We ended up being stalked by mountain lion throughout the night, seeing those glowing green cat eyes at between 20 40
yards is pretty crazy. We fired a warning shot hoping to scare them off since it was pitch black and we werent sure of our background we didnt want to fire direct shots at them unless they came too close and endangered our lives. We ended up taking turns keeping watch throughout the night as they wouldnt leave our camp alone. Looks like all the firearms i brought were very much needed.:biggrin1:

The next days light was greeted with a smile of relief. After breakfast we headed out to hike a very steep slate rock ridden mountain. The top was only about 100 yards up, but took us about an hour to summit. At the top are indigenous ruins. I was the first to reach and unfortunately the only to see the ruins. Our hike took our 2nd turn of events, my son who was right behind me stepped into a bee's nest which was under some rock. He was immediately attacked by the bees, we all got 5-10 stings, but my son received over 50. I immediately commanded our party to quickly head back down as the bees were chasing us. It was a dangerous situation getting down that mountain quickly and safely. We headed back into closest town , doing what we could with first aid kits while also trying to get service for 911.
They met us about halfway which was about 45 min after the incident.
Spent about 5 hours at the hospital. Thankfully he was not allergic or it would most likely have been fatal. My trooper of a son wanted to finish out the camping trip. So after getting the ok from the Dr., we headed back to camp. We finished the daylight out with some survival training. That night the mountain lions were non existent, very quite night just some elk bugling.

After packing up camp and leaving it cleaner than we found it, we headed for our last hike. Since we basically lost a day because of the bees, we were unable to hike to the canyon i wanted to show everyone. we hiked to the bottom of the waterfall and spent some time down there. I built a stone pile at the top of the water fall in memory of my best friends father who showed me this camping spot and who passed away a couple years back. The waterfall was gorgeous and cold, we all rinsed off the last few days.
Last we found a good spot for some longer distance target practice with the rifles and finished off the trip with some mexican food at one of our favorite hometown spots.

Pics to come.

Sounds like one of them trips you'll remember and tell stories about for some time. Those are always the best. I get out all over the state every single weekend and have some ideas of a few areas this could be. Can't wait to see the pics.
 
All pics are from my phone, it takes decent pics

On the highway


In my hometown in the back ground is the acid plant to the mines where my dad works,its the largest copper and gold mine in the world



Last stop for gas



Clouds were low















At the top is where the ruins are, where the rock and green meet.







Panoramic of the only pic i got off the ruins before my son got attacked by bees



Built this stone pile in memory of my best friends dad who passed away,he showed me this spot










On our way back

 
Sounds like one of them trips you'll remember and tell stories about for some time. Those are always the best. I get out all over the state every single weekend and have some ideas of a few areas this could be. Can't wait to see the pics.

yup, exactly. I know my son will sure remember it, we already nicknamed him
"stinger". I updated with some pics now. Lets see you name the spot.

EDIT: I'd love to know some of the spots you go.

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yup, exactly. I know my son will sure remember it, we already nicknamed him
"stinger". I updated with some pics now. Lets see you name the spot.

EDIT: I'd love to know some of the spots you go.

I recognize where all your pics were taken other than the one's with the ruins and I can't figure out for sure which mountain you're on top of in pics 6 & 9...but I have a feeling it is Aztec Peak. I believe the falls is Workmans Creek from those pics. I'm guessing the trail that keeps going past the falls is how you got up to Aztec..but I have never driven up past the falls.

I go up to that area alot. I was just up there this past Saturday checking out NF488 & 489. One of my favorite areas. I call it Arizonas lower rim. :)
 
I recognize where all your pics were taken other than the one's with the ruins and I can't figure out for sure which mountain you're on top of in pics 6 & 9...but I have a feeling it is Aztec Peak. I believe the falls is Workmans Creek from those pics. I'm guessing the trail that keeps going past the falls is how you got up to Aztec..but I have never driven up past the falls.

I go up to that area alot. I was just up there this past Saturday checking out NF488 & 489. One of my favorite areas. I call it Arizonas lower rim. :)

Good eye, you are correct. Pic 6 was taken from the top of the tower at Aztec peak, and pic 9 from the stone age furniture at Aztec peak. If you just follow the road past the falls, it takes you straight to the top of Aztec Peak.

The ruins are located just past the little bridge right before the falls. At the first turn in the road at the falls, you just climb right up that steep mountain
on north side. Most people dont know they're there. I wish i had a chance to take more pics, they are really beautiful ruins.
 
Well...now I think I'm going to head up there again this weekend to check out the falls area. I'll be sure to get good pics and share. Most of the times I can remember, I seem to always be up at the falls when there's snow on the ground. The trail gets slippy up near the falls with snow on it.
 

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