Spacer Lift Questions

[Lyric]

Recently bought the Daystar 2.5 Front/1.25 Rear

When installing the spacer lift it got really late and I never installed the rear due to time. So only the front spacers are on right now and I am so happy to get rid of the rake in the front. But....

Right now the vehicle sits pretty level except when you take a good look at the running boards you can see the front is actually a little higher up.

*I know if I put the back spacers in it will bring back a slight rake to the front and currently right now that is not a problem.

Question: If I install the rear spacers will this give so much a rake that I loose the amount of lift in the front like I have now? Or will this not effect my lift in the front. I just know the front looks so much better now. I just want to continue with the front this high and clearance.

 

[Gerdo]

It may compress the front coils a touch but not much. It will lower the front bumper, rotating on the front wheels.

Do it! By the way, the rear is simple.

 

[Lyric]

It will lower the front bumper, rotating on the front wheels.

Do it! By the way, the rear is simple.

So by lowering my front bumper your meaning I will loose clearance in the front? And what do you mean by rotating on front wheels? Confused here, sorry.

So how much clearance in the front bumper approach angle would I loose?

 

[Gerdo]

So by lowering my front bumper your meaning I will loose clearance in the front? And what do you mean by rotating on front wheels? Confused here, sorry.

So how much clearance in the front bumper approach angle would I loose?

The front tires will be the pivot point/fulcrum. As you lift the back. the front bumper will go down. I would guess about 1/4"- 1/2". Minor.

More importantly, you will increase the height of the rear bumper by over 1.25" increasing the departure angle.

Departure angle will always be less than approach angle due to the length of the overhang. (what is sticking out from the center of the wheels)

 

[Lyric]

I just hate to loose any height I have gained in the front. Will the height I loose in the front be noticeable much?

 

[Gerdo]

I just hate to loose any height I have gained in the front. Will the height I loose in the front be noticeable much?

Highly doubtful

 

[Alex T4R]

daystar 2.5/1.5

Recently bought the Daystar 2.5 Front/1.25 Rear

When installing the spacer lift it got really late and I never installed the rear due to time. So only the front spacers are on right now and I am so happy to get rid of the rake in the front. But....

Right now the vehicle sits pretty level except when you take a good look at the running boards you can see the front is actually a little higher up.

*I know if I put the back spacers in it will bring back a slight rake to the front and currently right now that is not a problem.

Question: If I install the rear spacers will this give so much a rake that I loose the amount of lift in the front like I have now? Or will this not effect my lift in the front. I just know the front looks so much better now. I just want to continue with the front this high and clearance.

I have installed the daystar on my truck and it looks amazing no rake in from, i even think that the front is till higher. You can look at my album.

 

[03_4x4Runner]

Just raise the back with a jack under the hitch and it will tell you your answer.

 

[TRDteen]

Can somebody define "rake" for me? I've seen this term used many times around the forums and im confused on what it means.

 

[Lyric]

Can somebody define "rake" for me? I've seen this term used many times around the forums and im confused on what it means.

Rake is when the nose or tail end of the vehicle sits lower than the other. 4th Gen 4Runners stock have a really big rake in the front which is noticeable where the front of the vehicle rides lower than the back. Leaving less clearance to the front vs the back. Nose dive. lol

Best way I can explain. Some say automakers do this for gas mileage and sometimes its do to engine weight and springs lacking the ability to withstand that weight. But again some say automakers preferred this for aero dynamics. Hell I'm not really sure but that's basically it. lol

 

[TRDteen]

Rake is when the nose or tail end of the vehicle sits lower than the other. 4th Gen 4Runners stock have a really big rake in the front which is noticeable where the front of the vehicle rides lower than the back. Leaving less clearance to the front vs the back. Nose dive. lol

Best way I can explain. Some say automakers do this for gas mileage and sometimes its do to engine weight and springs lacking the ability to withstand that weight. But again some say automakers preferred this for aero dynamics. Hell I'm not really sure but that's basically it. lol

So if the automakers "did" do that for those purposes. don't you think it would be best to leave it that way? (not saying im going to. installing my lift on wednesday!)

 

[Joey805]

So if the automakers "did" do that for those purposes. don't you think it would be best to leave it that way? (not saying im going to. installing my lift on wednesday!)

I've heard that they did it for towing purposes. That way when you are towing something heavy, your truck will be level, not sag in the back.

 

[aha2988]

I've heard that they did it for towing purposes. That way when you are towing something heavy, your truck will be level, not sag in the back.

Correct, the rake is in the design so A.) the vehicle is slightly more aerodynamic B.) when towing the vehicle sits level as well The rear springs have to account for a full load verses an empty load. (fill your truck full of passengers cargo and hook a trailer up and watch your rake disappear or your rear sag if you do this with a level vehicle) C.) A rake also provides a more sporty look to the vehicle.

 

[superman3043]

I've read that the lower nose heights of SUV's can also be attributed to designers attempting to make the vehicles safer in the event that it is a front end accident with smaller passenger vehicles. And by safer, I mean limiting the damage that the heavy SUV will cause to the smaller vehicle. If you look at all the modern SUV's, their noses are very low to the ground (with the exception of maybe the 5th gen 4Runner). But compare a 3rd Gen to a 4th Gen and the difference is clear.